Newbie need advice

[jl521274]

I am 21 and about to start my first prop test cycle. I wanted to know from someone who has done it before exactly what i need to do/take during and after the cycle. Talk to me as if i know nothing. Thanks!

[Bvette]

I am 21 and about to start my first prop test cycle. I wanted to know from someone who has done it before exactly what i need to do/take during and after the cycle. Talk to me as if i know nothing. Thanks!

You are a little young to be starting a cycle. What are your stats anyways?

[redz]

Definitely young to be cycling, do you have a pct planed?

[jl521274]

i know i am young but i am doing it regardless..... i am 5'6 and weigh 140 pounds. like i said talk to me as if i know nothing (mostly because i dont), the person i am getting it from is going to give me directions on what to do but i would like to get a few other educated opinions. i do not know what a pct is. i am a blank canvus, paint me.

[lexruger]

read the stickies in the forum if your deadset but i doubt anyones going to encourage your use

[redz]

This is the scary part, you have decided to do it without any education at all. This is a serious decision that could have serious re-percussions. PCT is post cycle therapy and if you don`t know that you are going to 100% hurt yourself and lose any potential gains you do make on cycle.

[jjredd]

This is the scary part, you have decided to do it without any education at all. This is a serious decision that could have serious re-percussions. PCT is post cycle therapy and if you don`t know that you are going to 100% hurt yourself and lose any potential gains you do make on cycle.

agreed. OP Atleast take the time to educate yourself on the downsides of doing it when your young before hand.

[shadey33]

Drop the prop and run a whey cycle you'll be amazed !!

[jl521274]

i was not aware that pct was an abrevation for post cycle therapy but i was told to take something but do not remember the name.... call me irresponsible or whatever you want, but i'm pretty set on doing this and already purchased it. i would like to be as educated as possible before i actually start so if anyone could help me i would be very much appreciative.

[Phate]

i was not aware that pct was an abrevation for post cycle therapy but i was told to take something but do not remember the name.... call me irresponsible or whatever you want, but i'm pretty set on doing this and already purchased it. i would like to be as educated as possible before i actually start so if anyone could help me i would be very much appreciative.

that statement is impossible, because for you to be educated in something you have to have an understanding of it, and if you understood anything about what you are about to do, you wouldn't do it

[jl521274]

i do appreciate all of the concern don't think I'm an asshole or ungrateful, I have been working out for almost 4 years with minimal results. I have spoken to body builders and tried different workout routines, diets, and supplements, this just seemed like the next logical step.

[ohlsson]

that statement is impossible, because for you to be educated in something you have to have an understanding of it, and if you understood anything about what you are about to do, you wouldn't do it

hes 21. for most part he's old enough to cycle. however u should plan better. research more.

[Phate]

hes 21. for most part he's old enough to cycle. however u should plan better. research more.

based on what?

and research more? he needs to research period, he knows nothing at all(not even the name of the drugs he's about to take), yet you condone him cycling as long as he plans better?

[jl521274]

ok well if it is an ethical thing and people dont feel right encouraging this then i understand and thanks for everything anyway

[Phate]

ok well if it is an ethical thing and people dont feel right encouraging this then i understand and thanks for everything anyway

it's more of a "we don't want you to screw yourself up for life" thing, we're not being spiteful, just trying to help you out

[jl521274]

based on what?

and research more? he needs to research period, he knows nothing at all(not even the name of the drugs he's about to take), yet you condone him cycling as long as he plans better?

well i was told to take novedex, i would be taking that with the prop test if someone were to tell me if that was correct, if not I would like to know the name of the drugs i will be taking but no one is telling me so i can research them for myself...... its a never ending cycle with u guys (no pun intended)

[redz]

i was not aware that pct was an abrevation for post cycle therapy but i was told to take something but do not remember the name.... call me irresponsible or whatever you want, but i'm pretty set on doing this and already purchased it. i would like to be as educated as possible before i actually start so if anyone could help me i would be very much appreciative.

Well you don`t even know what you got for pct, and your going to do it regardless so whats the point of us telling you anything, you already picked a compound and cycle without knowing anything. Do you even realize how often you will need to inject?

[redz]

Novedex is an over the counter herbal supplement that will do virtually nothing to aid in recovery. You need Nolvadex and Clomid.

[jl521274]

Well you don`t even know what you got for pct, and your going to do it regardless so whats the point of us telling you anything, you already picked a compound and cycle without knowing anything. Do you even realize how often you will need to inject?

i was told every 2 days... so why dont you tell me so i can compare with what i have read and been told already...... its not like i am planning on starting tomorrow i was doing preliminary research and figured this would be a good place to start. i guess i will just save myself and everyone else further frustration.

[redz]

Prop can be shot eod like you planed. Clomid and Nolva are what you need for pct. What are you going to do if you get estrogen sides? Just throwing it out there, but you really need to learn about side effects and make sure you have the right ancillaries on hand. I`m leaving it at this but if you wait you will be glad you did and I know that isnt going to stop you because you have already made up your mind.

[jl521274]

have not made up my mind necessarily... but thank you that was helpful

[Cobra04]

I agree 21 is young, but you are going to do what you want. 5'6" is a good short frame, you say you have tried diets? like what? you need to start in the Kitchen are you eating 6 meals a day? not including shakes? Chicken,beef and fish, what kind of carbs are you taking in every meal and how much? If you want to grow on the juice you need to be eating and training hard or it will be a waste. Research this before you go in uneducated, do you even know how to draw it out of the vial? what gauge pins to use, and how long? where to inject? aspirate? I am not trying to be down on you, but you got the info here, just spend some time reading instead of trusting somebody from the gym. Why prop? why not cyp or enan. especially for a first cycle, where did this stuff come from? is it lableled? how do you know its not just oil in a bottle, I am just listing a few question you should be learning about before you do it.

[408gt91]

i do appreciate all of the concern don't think I'm an asshole or ungrateful, I have been working out for almost 4 years with minimal results. I have spoken to body builders and tried different workout routines, diets, and supplements, this just seemed like the next logical step.

Go to prison.lol You just need the right training and diet to gain.
Your body is a blank, Build the shit out of it naturally the best you can.
I was the same way man. I weighed 155 till i was 22. I got locked up, started
working out and had no idea and got nowhere. My friend helped me out. He pushed me to eat and lift like an animal. You need a training partner not aas.
You need to be pushed. I got a kid thats 24 im training right now that was 150 6 months ago and now is 175. NATURAL. Muscular hypertrophy Look it up.