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    first cycle

    Im 35, 5'8", 200lbs, aprox...20-23%bf. I have been lifing off and on for 10 years. I want to get a solid year of lifting and down to 10%bf before I start a cycle. I would like to get some tips so I can fine tune what I should our should not be taking. Here is my idea for a first run.

    Week 1-4 Cypionate 500mg/week
    Dianabol 20mg/day
    Arimidex .5mg/day
    Nolvadex 20mg/day
    Week 5-8 Cypionate 500mg/week
    Arimidex .5mg/day
    Nolvadex 20mg/day
    Week 9-10 pct
    Arimidex .25mg/day
    Nolvadex 20mg/day
    Week 11 pct
    Clomid 200mg/day
    Arimidex .25mg/day
    Nolvadex 20mg/day
    Week 12 Clomid 100mg/day
    Nolvadex 10mg/day
    Week 13 Clomid 50mg/day
    Nolvadex 10mg/day
    Week 14 Clomid 25mg/day
    Nolvadex 5mg/day

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    u have it correct about dropping the bf before u cycle.
    i dont like that cycle for many reasons, no need for nolv and adex tiogether, use adex but not at .5mged, use .5eod or even .25 eod.
    also, run the test for 10-12 weeks, not 8. if u want to run 8 weeks, use prop not cyp.
    i dont like adex in PCT but i think others may.

    also, if this is ur first cycle, drop the dbol , just run test to see how ur body reacts...

    but u have to drop the bf man..

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    Thank you, im doing cardio 3 days per week in hopes to drop the bf%. I am aiming for October of 2010 to start cycle.

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    What about droping the Adex for Nolv?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bignoob View Post
    What about droping the Adex for Nolv?
    arimidex will work better in this case, the reason being that arimidex is an aromatase inhibitor, meaning that it keeps testosterone from converting to estrogen, whereas nolva keeps estrogen from attaching to it's receptor

    adex will stop it from being formed in the first place while nolva will only keep it from attaching, but it will still be there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooseman33 View Post
    u have it correct about dropping the bf before u cycle.
    i dont like that cycle for many reasons, no need for nolv and adex tiogether, use adex but not at .5mged, use .5eod or even .25 eod.
    also, run the test for 10-12 weeks, not 8. if u want to run 8 weeks, use prop not cyp.
    i dont like adex in PCT but i think others may.

    also, if this is ur first cycle, drop the dbol , just run test to see how ur body reacts...

    but u have to drop the bf man..

    x2

    Above advice is textbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooseman33 View Post
    u have it correct about dropping the bf before u cycle.
    i dont like that cycle for many reasons, no need for nolv and adex tiogether, use adex but not at .5mged, use .5eod or even .25 eod.
    also, run the test for 10-12 weeks, not 8. if u want to run 8 weeks, use prop not cyp.
    i dont like adex in PCT but i think others may.

    also, if this is ur first cycle, drop the dbol , just run test to see how ur body reacts...

    but u have to drop the bf man..
    Moose said it all .

    You should up the cardio a day or two . minimum of 30 minutes .

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    Thank you all for the advice. Yes, I have a long way to go before I'm ready to cycle. That is why I am aiming for October to start. The reason I asked about the Nolv was I read somewhere here in the forum (can't remember who) someone said they like to use Nolv 2 weeks prior to cycle because it helps to bring up natural test. I assume this is so the 500mg/week on cycle isn't such a shock to the system.....is there anything to this or is it just a personal preferance?

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    When you lose some bf and decide to cycle you should run your test at least ten weeks and wait two weeks after your last shot to start pct. How long have you been working out consistently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankdiesel View Post
    When you lose some bf and decide to cycle you should run your test at least ten weeks and wait two weeks after your last shot to start pct. How long have you been working out consistently?
    September 2009

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    I do not believe a novice should be contemplating the use of streoids. Five months of working out? Take time and research other things that can make a bigger difference like diet/nutrition/training. Trust me, your body isnt anywhere near filling out after only 5 months of training.

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