mast or tren?

**mad04007** · 02-12-2010, 10:33 AM

doin a cutting cycle with a base of test prop.

if the goal is to lean out get and get stronger without gaining much weight...which is better to add.. mast or tren??

age 23
bf 13-15
6 foot 205 pds

cycle is gonna last 8 weeks
either prop 75ed mast 75ed
or
prop 75ed tren ace 75 ed

**Rex9933** · 02-12-2010, 12:14 PM

for what you're looking for, u should go with tren . have u done tren before though bro?

**c-Z** · 02-12-2010, 12:24 PM

Previous cycle experience?

**bjpennnn** · 02-12-2010, 12:24 PM

lets get some of these Height
age
weight
bf%
cycle exp:
training exp:
pct?
diet?

**mad04007** · 02-12-2010, 01:23 PM

haha i just gave all these yesterday but here ya go

age 23
bf 13
6 foot 205 pounds

2 previous cycles..been all natural for about 2 yrs
1. test e, decca
2. test cyp, tren e

this would be my first ever "cutting cycle" and my 1st expiernce with short esters and ed pins.

i have a diet worked out...basically around 200-250 g protein a day and 50-70 g carbs and calories still around 2000-2500 been doing this diet for about a month with good cardio and am happy, probably will be tweaking it till its perfect before i start pinnin.

**bjpennnn** · 02-12-2010, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by mad04007

haha i just gave all these yesterday but here ya go

age 23
bf 13
6 foot 205 pounds

2 previous cycles..been all natural for about 2 yrs
1. test e, decca
2. test cyp, tren e

this would be my first ever "cutting cycle" and my 1st expiernce with short esters and ed pins.

i have a diet worked out...basically around 200-250 g protein a day and 50-70 g carbs and calories still around 2000-2500 been doing this diet for about a month with good cardio and am happy, probably will be tweaking it till its perfect before i start pinnin.

I am not a diet wizard, but you definitely need more then 200 grams of protein a day. More like 300g plus.

**mad04007** · 02-12-2010, 01:41 PM

thats sumin im workin on...upin my protein, i hate subin protein shakes in besides PWO. so i really have been upin protein...guess i find it hard to diet and cut calories a lil but still up the protein

last time i did tren ..it was TREN E..couldnt sleep, sweat alot, and broke out on my shoulders...but i am willing to deal with it

any huge differnce between tren ace and tren ent besides the short esters

**bjpennnn** · 02-12-2010, 01:47 PM

well 10 egg whites in the morning plus i cup cooked oats
50g protien shake after workout
50g protien shake somewhere else in there
8oz lean meat chicken, fish, turkey
8oz lean steak or same as above
plus your protein from your carbs you are getting(brown rice).
add something else if you like.

It is not that hard you just got be conscious of it. Plan it out ya know. You dont want it to be 3 in the afternoon and be like oh shit no protein for the day yet. Just stay disciplined and you will get there.

**mad04007** · 02-12-2010, 01:54 PM

perfect thanks man. ok still i want to know...

tren or mast????

**jc95605** · 02-20-2010, 01:43 PM

I'd probably go with tren too. From what i read Masteron is a good hardener and precontest compound but nothings like tren for strength.

**_CrossroadS_** · 02-21-2010, 07:50 PM

You going to be happy with yourself at 6' and less than 200lbs, even if you have a low BF? Seems to me you'd want to put on a little size before you worry about a "cutting cycle". Not to mention you could get into the single digits in the same time frame with the right diet and exercise. 75mg of Tren ED is pretty bold. How much tren did you take before?

If you are trying to lose a few lbs of fat, do AM cardio, and cardio PWO. Get in the diet forum, and get it right. You'll save yourself time, money and risk...