clen and high blood pressure

[...aydn...]

was taking clen for a couple days first time usage and i got my blood pressure reading done and it was 180/80 is there any ways to get it back to normal???? iv stopped taking it already so thats a start.. i dont want a heart attack.

[Little Herc]

How long ago did u quit taking it? It has a 36 hour half life so I would assume that it will return to normal in about 3 days when it has left your system completely.

[metski]

damn thats high
did you check it a few times to ensure its a correct reading?

did you take any stims with clen ?
did you drink coffee before doing blood pressure test?

i bought hawthorn and green tea extract to reduce blood pressure while on clen

pretty cheap (:

[Little Herc]

I Hope you didn't take a huge amounts that like some of these people talk about in here? I start out at 20mcg and cannot go over 80.

[metski]

anything under 160mcg should be fine but i hope you gradually built up to it not just took it on Day 1

[...aydn...]

yeah i was taking about 100 mcg straight up lol.. i know i know i should have eased into it but i was hectic excited just wanted to get it pumping... yeah i also take 200-400 mg of caffiene as a supplement and i also drink coffee..

maybe if i took it without the stims i would be ok? and yeah i had it checked by a docter.. he couldn't believe it he checked it about 10 times. really keen to get back on it seriously felt pumped 24/7. but i might give it a week before i go back on because i need to get my blood pressure down so i can pass the health check so i can get into the army.

[ottomaddox]

Well, Duh! 100mcg of clen , 200-400mgs caffeine and coffee, no wonder you didn't stroke, have some common sense. Maybe if you did a little more research and wasn't so "hectic excited" about things, you'll take it a little slower next time.

[metski]

yeah lol

you can have some caffine while on it but DAMN 200-400 caffine sup + each coffee has like 150mg of caffine

try this out
take 100mcg clen
no caffine
no shower
check blood pressure

also buy a blood pressure kit from chemist
its proven that blood pressure is slightly more elevated while at the doctor due to environment

[Little Herc]

yeah i was taking about 100 mcg straight up lol.. i know i know i should have eased into it but i was hectic excited just wanted to get it pumping... yeah i also take 200-400 mg of caffiene as a supplement and i also drink coffee..

maybe if i took it without the stims i would be ok? and yeah i had it checked by a doctor.. he couldn't believe it he checked it about 10 times. really keen to get back on it seriously felt pumped 24/7. but i might give it a week before i go back on because i need to get my blood pressure down so i can pass the health check so i can get into the army.

That's a recipe for a panic attack. Did u feel like u were dying and have go to the emergency room? You dont mess with lots of caffine and stimulants. That will mess with your head. I use to take some rec uppers along time ago and nothing messed with my head more than taking a bunch of nodoz after drinking a couple of mt dews. It was terrible. Add in clen and they would have had to put me under.

[Little Herc]

I post this alot but I think everyone should read paragraph 11 and remeber it takes 3 days for the first dose to leave your body before taking stupid amounts of clen .



The Rise and Fall of Clenbuterol
by Jerry Brainium

Clenbuterol is a beta-2 adrenal agonist drug, which means it has a structure similar to the natural catecholamine hormones in the body, such as epinephrine. The primary medical uses for clenbuterol are for treatment of asthma and other respiratory diseases. Clenbuterol assists in respiration because, like epinephrine, it promotes dilation of the bronchial tubes in the lungs. Asthma is characterized by constriction and inflammation of the bronchial tubes.

Clenbuterol, however, has never been approved for sale in the United States for use by people. Drug companies are most interested in profit, and clenbuterol offers no particular medical advantages over existing beta-2 asthma drugs. Clenbuterol does have notable disadvantages, however. It has a long half-life, remaining active in the body for up to 36 hours. While that sounds good, it also increases the likelihood of serious side effects, thus making it less attractive to litigation-wary pharmaceutical companies. In contrast, the body degrades and eliminates the current leading beta-2 agonist drug sold in the U.S. after only about six hours.

Clenbuterol is sold in other countries, chiefly by Mexican pharmacies, under various trade names, such as Clenasma, Spiropent and the veterinary injectable Ventipulmin. It first attracted the attention of bodybuilders years ago after animal research showed that it offered potent repartitioning effects—it appeared to decrease bodyfat while simultaneously fostering increased muscle size, particularly in the type 2 fast-twitch fibers, the fibers most amenable to hypertrophy from weight training.

Those animal studies, however, typically used dosages in the one-to-five-milligram-per-kilogram-of-bodyweight range. That amounts to a daily dose of 450 milligrams of clenbuterol in a 200-pound athlete. For human use clenbuterol comes in microgram amounts. One thousand micrograms equal one milligram.

Despite those discrepancies, clenbuterol quickly earned a reputation as an anabolic and “cutting” drug, favored in precontest cycles, and athletes who tried it soon discovered two things: 1) Its effects didn’t last more than three to four weeks, since beta-adrenergic receptors are extremely sensitive and turn off, or downregulate, rapidly; and 2) it provided no discernible anabolic effect. It did, however, provide a potent thermogenic effect conducive to fat oxidation. You could tell the thermogenic properties were working by the perception of increased body heat.

The most common suggested clenbuterol dosage was one to two tablets a day, gradually increasing to eight to 10 per day. To extend its therapeutic potency and blunt down-regulation of beta-adrenergic receptors, users were advised to take the drug on a two-days-on/one-day-off cycle; however, it was never proven scientifically that the off-and-on cycle offered any real advantages.

The same holds true for another drug, ketotifen, said to help maintain the potency of beta receptors. Whatever benefits ketotifen confer on open beta receptors come at a price. Ketotifen is an antihistamine, which can cause acute drowsiness—not exactly conducive to intense training. What of side effects? Taking too much clenbuterol has the same effect as a flood of epinephrine in your body. Symptoms include increased blood pressure, possible heart-rhythm disturbances, muscle tremor and insomnia. In Europe clenbuterol was used in meat processing, and some who ate the drug-laden beef experienced the same side effects.

More recent animal studies—again using far higher doses than would ever be ingested by humans—showed that clenbuterol decreases endurance by degrading the heart structure. Indeed, some of the research animals died from heart failure. A recent study that examined the heart and skeletal muscles of rats given clenbuterol identified direct toxic effects from the drug.1 What’s particularly interesting about that study is that the bad effects resulted from just a single dose of injectable clenbuterol—a form favored by some bodybuilders and other athletes.

The results showed that clenbuterol didn’t just harm heart-muscle cells but actually killed them. Heart-muscle-cell loss led to increased collagen deposition. In effect, active heart cells were replaced by scar tissue, setting the stage for sudden heart failure.

Several theories explain clenbuterol’s adverse effects. The first involves the fact that clenbuterol depletes the amino acid taurine in the heart; taurine has protective properties, such as modulating the calcium levels that keep heart rhythm stable. Clenbuterol may also increase norepinephrine-induced stimulation of the heart, which can damage the heart if excessive.

You may reason that the research animals got megadoses of clenbuterol and that the lesser doses athletes use wouldn’t have the same effects—but that’s just wishful thinking. According to something called Kleiber’s law, the animal dose of clenbuterol is equal to a human dose of five to six tablets. So the same side effects could be expected. In addition, because of the extended time that clenbuterol takes to degrade in the body, it could build up and have cumulative effects.

The findings of heart damage from clenbuterol could partly explain the mysterious deaths of a few bodybuilders who combined clen with anabolic steroids . That is, of course, pure speculation. Athletes who use clenbuterol should ensure that they also supplement taurine, which may offer some heart protection.

Other studies send further grim news about clenbuterol.2,3 When it was given to pigs, the portion of the testes that synthesizes testosterone (Leydig cells) increased in size, suggesting increased testosterone production. But the testes cells where sperm is manufactured (Sertoli cells) were permanently damaged. That implies that clenbuterol may adversely affect fertility.

The increase in the cells that secrete testosterone isn’t that surprising. Natural catecholamines like epinephrine, for which clenbuterol serves as a synthetic substitute to some degree, are known to promote testosterone synthesis. Short-term stress, characterized by increased catecholamine release into the blood, leads to upgraded testosterone. But if the stress persists, other stress hormones, such as cortisol, are released and reverse that effect—that is, decrease testosterone synthesis and release.
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M.P.C Sports Specialist(Sports Hypnotist), N.C.E.F Gym Instructor, Lifeguard, Assistant Swim Teacher, 1st Aider.

" A belief strongly held, becomes ones reality"

[...aydn...]

dude awesome post ^ ill defs invest in some tourine for heart protection and no more stims ..