What do you think of my Cycle and diet @@@@@@@@@@

[Just2Big]

Week 1-10
Mast 200x3= 600 a week
H.G. Test E250 x2= 500 a week
EQ 300x1 =300 a week
HCG= 250x2 a week

T3 week 1-6 with taper up and down
PCT of Nov+clom+Ashwaganha root

29yr
6'1 230, 16%-19%BF Guessing
Lifting for 6-7 years. 1.5 steady.
Diet is great for 5 months now. 30min cardio at least 4 days a week

mon- bies and back
tue-chest and tries
wens shoulder and lite legs
thur- off
fri- bies and back
sat-chest and tries
sun-off

Wanted to lean up and try to cut some. But I got 2 free protein tubes. I got IS Mass and Cytogainer to make sure I get enuf calories. There around 650 calories each shake. Im told you need 4000-5000 a day while on cycle. That too much? I have very low calories protein as well.T Plus what I eat. Im trying to get 2g of protein per lb. I have done 2 cycles in the past but ate tons of protein bars and shakes throughout it. Do I need that many cal? I dont care if I gain muscle and get big. Just worried about getting fat. i was skinnier back then. I got somewhat of a belly now and I imagine it will bloat pretty bad. Any thoughts on the cycle or calorie intake? Im thinking eat, eat, eat and gain, but try to slim my waist. Thanks.

[Kibble]

Week 1-10
Mast 200x3= 600 a week
H.G. Test E250 x2= 500 a week
EQ 300x1 =300 a week
HCG= 250x2 a week

T3 week 1-6 with taper up and down
PCT of Nov+clom+Ashwaganha root

29yr
6'1 230, 16%-19%BF Guessing
Lifting for 6-7 years. 1.5 steady.
Diet is great for 5 months now. 30min cardio at least 4 days a week

mon- bies and back
tue-chest and tries
wens shoulder and lite legs
thur- off
fri- bies and back
sat-chest and tries
sun-off

Wanted to lean up and try to cut some. But I got 2 free protein tubes. I got IS Mass and Cytogainer to make sure I get enuf calories. Im told you need 4000-5000 a day while on cycle. Trying to get 2g of protein per lb. I have done 2 cycles in the past but ate tons of protein bars and shakes throughout it. Do I need that many cal? I dont care if I gain muscle and get big. Just worried about getting fat. I got somewhat of a belly now and I imagine it will bloat pretty bad. Any thoughts on the cycle or calorie intake? Im thinking eat, eat, eat and gain, but try to slim my waist. Thanks.

IMO, the EQ is too low, and the Mast can be lowered. Also, I have read all over that Masteron is better for users near the 10%bf mark. I would say that you add another day off before you begin the same bodypart. Three days of rest between bodyparts is not enough to recover imo

[Just2Big]

What do you think Eq at ? EQ=600? I was going to do Mast at 400. But I have a extra bottle and figure use it. I would likea 15 week cycle since there long esters but I just dont have it.

What do you think of
Mast 400
EQ400or600
test 500

I honostly would like to drop the Test E to 250 a week. Im told thats to low. I can get another EQ300. But I would want to use it all.

Let me know. Thanks for you input.

[Kibble]

What do you think Eq at ? EQ=600? I was going to do Mast at 400. But I have a extra bottle and figure use it. I would likea 15 week cycle since there long esters but I just dont have it.

What do you think of
Mast 400
EQ400or600
test 500

I honostly would like to drop the Test E to 250 a week. Im told thats to low. I can get another EQ300. But I would want to use it all.

Let me know. Thanks for you input.

From what I have read, a decent setup would be:

Test E - 500mg
EQ - 600mg
Mast - 400mg

Do not lower the test to 250mg imo

[D7M]

Week 1-10
Mast 200x3= 600 a week
H.G. Test E250 x2= 500 a week
EQ 300x1 =300 a week
HCG= 250x2 a week

T3 week 1-6 with taper up and down
PCT of Nov+clom+Ashwaganha root

29yr
6'1 230, 16%-19%BF Guessing
Lifting for 6-7 years. 1.5 steady.
Diet is great for 5 months now. 30min cardio at least 4 days a week

mon- bies and back
tue-chest and tries
wens shoulder and lite legs
thur- off
fri- bies and back
sat-chest and tries
sun-off

Wanted to lean up and try to cut some. But I got 2 free protein tubes. I got IS Mass and Cytogainer to make sure I get enuf calories. There around 650 calories each shake. Im told you need 4000-5000 a day while on cycle. That too much? I have very low calories protein as well.T Plus what I eat. Im trying to get 2g of protein per lb. I have done 2 cycles in the past but ate tons of protein bars and shakes throughout it. Do I need that many cal? I dont care if I gain muscle and get big. Just worried about getting fat. i was skinnier back then. I got somewhat of a belly now and I imagine it will bloat pretty bad. Any thoughts on the cycle or calorie intake? Im thinking eat, eat, eat and gain, but try to slim my waist. Thanks.

Agreed with BigK, I don't like your training split at all. You'd benefit alot from dedicating an entire day to legs and going heavy on them.

What's your cycle experience?

I think you have too many compounds in there to cut. One, maybe two compounds are all you need to cut on, imo. The AAS is just there to preserve muscle while you're in a caloric deficiency, it won't necessarily burn fat.

From the sounds of it, I think you need a diet overhaul. I suggest you start a thread in the diet forum.

If you are 16-19% body fat, there is no way you need 5K cals to cut. And you don't need those weight gainer shakes. If you got them for free, then just sell them to someone.

What is your planned pct?

[c-Z]

From what I have read, a decent setup would be:

Test E - 500mg
EQ - 600mg
Mast - 400mg

Do not lower the test to 250mg imo

Much better then the cycle proposed... I have seen some run test at lower doses... it varies on the user though. Everyones body reacts differently to test... Some have worse cases of gyno... etc... So they run there test lower... You can run it lower than 500..... I personally don't like to but that is me.

[Just2Big]

k. I will kick the extra mast and get eq. Add another rest day. I eat great. But I ate horrable in the past. Plus I will be on T3 for a bit of it. I dont care what my BF is. Just want to look good. Im told this cycle can slim you up with proper diet, exercise and working out. But I wouldnt mind getting bigger either. Just not fat. PCT is clom 100/100/50/50 nov 40/40/30/20/20 so on. Clom as long as there are no vision probs.

[Hunter]

Mast will harden you up but it wont be nearly as noticable with your bf, I have heard it is excellent for strength gains however.

I myself would drop the the mast all together and run a basic the cycle like this

Your not running the eq long enough for one and the dose is to low as well.

I myself would just run a basic test cycle. Test e @ 500 mgs for 12 weeks

If your cutting just for a beach body all you really need is test to help hold onto your muscle mass well you restrict calories esp well running t3.

As with all cycles the your diet will have the largest impact on your results. I am not familiar with the root your running but I certainly would run armosin in pct as well. I would also keep some extra armidex on head in case you have estrogen related sides well on cycle. You can use armosin during cycle but I think along with others armidex is better choice for on cycle.

I would drop my body fat lower before cycling however.

[Just2Big]

Im told Mast will block and eliminate most ester problems and gyno. It works great with Test and they enhance each other. EQ is great for your tendons to protect while you gain strenth. So I would like Eq for sure with the TestE. Altho I am a higher BF I read Mast does make a difference in hardness and bloat. Just not as much.

[Hunter]

Im told Mast will block and eliminate most ester problems and gyno. It works great with Test and they enhance each other. EQ is great for your tendons to protect while you gain strenth. So I would like Eq for sure with the TestE. Altho I am a higher BF I read Mast does make a difference in hardness and bloat. Just not as much.

Yes dht's do have a.i like properties in the fact they can reduce estrogen sides but still need to have an a.i on hand.

Also Eq has a very long ester attached to it. I Would run Eq at least 12 weeks. You need to run test e two weeks past the date you stop Eq so pct times match up.

[Just2Big]

I already have the Mast,EQ and Test. So I would like to use it. I can extend the the cycle to 15 wks and stop the mast and Eq 2 weeks early. I have nova for a A.I. Cant really het nothing else. I tried to get aroemasen. What to you think. I might not get the most of the mast but Im sure it will help. And Im not just looking to cut. At first I was. I would like to gain size and lose my waist. Is this possible if I take Is mass / cytogainer for weight gainer to get my calories up? I eat right and run as well. or should I keep my calories down and let the gear give me size? Let me know. Thanks for your help. Even tho I still want to do the whole cycle. i appriciate it.

[Hunter]

I already have the Mast,EQ and Test. So I would like to use it. I can extend the the cycle to 15 wks and stop the mast and Eq 2 weeks early.I have nova for a A.I. Cant really het nothing else. I tried to get aroemasen. What to you think. I might not get the most of the mast but Im sure it will help. And Im not just looking to cut. At first I was. I would like to gain size and lose my waist. Is this possible if I take Is mass / cytogainer for weight gainer to get my calories up? I eat right and run as well. or should I keep my calories down and let the gear give me size? Let me know. Thanks for your help. Even tho I still want to do the whole cycle. i appriciate it.

Nolva is a serm not an A.I.

Personally I think gainers are 99.9% of gainers are junk because most are just loaded with sugar. I would only use a gainer if I was plagued with low appetite.

I would cut your bf is a bit on the high side. If you cut properly you will look bigger/better at a lower bf percentage.

Really just put the mast away for a next cycle. Most guys who have been around the game will tell you more compounds doesn't equal better results.

Why dont you run your cycle like this

Weeks 1-15 - test e @ 500mgs a week
Weeks 1-13 - Eq @ 600mgs a week

[dec11]

tht training split is stupid, why are you training groups more than once a week?

[Phate]

IMO, the EQ is too low, and the Mast can be lowered. Also, I have read all over that Masteron is better for users near the 10%bf mark. I would say that you add another day off before you begin the same bodypart. Three days of rest between bodyparts is not enough to recover imo

while i agree that his split needs some work, the amount of rest needed depends on the muscle, for example, biceps and calves recover extremely quickly, while back can take up to 100 hours to fully recover(though 3 days rest for it is plenty

Agreed with BigK, I don't like your training split at all. You'd benefit alot from dedicating an entire day to legs and going heavy on them.

What's your cycle experience?

I think you have too many compounds in there to cut. One, maybe two compounds are all you need to cut on, imo. The AAS is just there to preserve muscle while you're in a caloric deficiency, it won't necessarily burn fat.

From the sounds of it, I think you need a diet overhaul. I suggest you start a thread in the diet forum.

If you are 16-19% body fat, there is no way you need 5K cals to cut. And you don't need those weight gainer shakes. If you got them for free, then just sell them to someone.

What is your planned pct?

agreed, he needs a diet make over, 5000kcals to cut is ridiculous

tht training split is stupid, why are you training groups more than once a week?

nothing wrong with training a group twice a week as long as you give it proper rest time, but i get your point

[Just2Big]

How would you split or work out differently? Working a muscle once a week more or less mantains it. Or at least for me. I have done it. For me to build I need more. And I get plenty of rest daily. I have rental property and do not work ever. Only to fix thing when they break. So my days are very easy.
I dont want or eat anything near 5k calories a day. I said someone said you need 4-5k cal a day while on gear. And I was asking if that was right. Thats all. I might eat 2-3k a day in calories including my shakes. I eat nothing but boiled or grilled chicken, veggies, wheat bread,oats and whole grain pasta. No junk. I will cut out the Masteron and save it. Do test E 500 wk for 15wk and EQ 600 wk for 13wk. Eat the same as I do. Maybe do one 700 calorie shake a day along with my regular shakes that are 200 calorie each. try to put on a lttle more size but slim down as my waist well. That sound good? Oh and I have bad knees and hips so light legs for me.

[Just2Big]

Since masteron has A.I. like property can I use like 200 a week of masteron in place of a A.I.? Since I already have the Mast it would save me some money. If I need A.I. like Armadex incase of gyno why cant nova be used? Dont it get rid of gyno also ? Please inform me. Thnaks again for all of your input.