Clen and Ketotifen

[RuhlFreak55]

My question is simple....do you have to run the Keto throughout when you're on clen, or can you do what was done with benadryl when it was perceived as effective and just take the ketotifen every 3rd week?

I searched and could not find any sort of clear answer

[FranciscoG]

Clen has a half life of over 24 hours. It also effects the Bª R causing down regulation.

In thoery if you take keto to ¨clean¨ the R it will not work.

Simply, Once clen is down regulating Bª then you have to have time to upregulate. Keto can help the upregulation period be much faster and better.

But you can not expect to use keto and clen at the same time all year around or for months and see effective results as day 1.

[americanoak]

pharmDoc, I did clen for 2 weeks on then took 2 off with some benadryl in between, now i am on clen again, was 2 weeks to short? My doses were in the 180-200 range when i ended the 1st 2 week cycle

Dont wanna highjack... but Rulfreak will porbably be wondering the same thing as me

[FranciscoG]

2-3 weeks off with keto will work.

I really don´t see benadryl as all that effective.

[Forumskank13]

i am currently doing the same cycle. i couldnt find anything on when to take the keto. So do you start the keto the first day with the clen and continue? Or do you take the keto starting in the third week after two weeks of clen by itself?

[RuhlFreak55]

Clen has a half life of over 24 hours. It also effects the Bª R causing down regulation.

In thoery if you take keto to ¨clean¨ the R it will not work.

Simply, Once clen is down regulating Bª then you have to have time to upregulate. Keto can help the upregulation period be much faster and better.

But you can not expect to use keto and clen at the same time all year around or for months and see effective results as day 1.

yea this isn't helpful and of all the threads i looked through such a thing was not mentioned once

[FranciscoG]

You can run keto while you do clen. It will not stop clen from down regulating. You will have to eventually either increase the dosage or stop.

Using keto while you are off clen will help you recover faster.

It will prob be more worth while to take keto on your off weeks.

[teddykgb29]

good luck with the clen/keto combo, my favorite is the clen/t3/keto combo.

[tballz]

Ketotifen does up-regulate the receptors then you can run the clen for longer than 2 weeks.

Benadryl does not work. It has never been proven to work. Ketotifen has been proven to work.

[RuhlFreak55]

and still....absolutely no one answers my simple question except the guy that somehow thinks it does no good

[tballz]

Start the keto at the end of your 2nd week.

[RuhlFreak55]

still didn't answer my question....can't anyone READ???? wtf.....

[Little Herc]

He answered your question? Can't your read wtf? If u got your heart set on doing it a certain way just do it and quit acting like a 10 year old.

[happysumo]

Tballz is right start it at the end of your second week and then take it every day. 1mg/day at night since it makes you drowsy. Run this until the end of cycle.

[killface]

You've got it right. Take keto every 3rd week without stopping clen.

I'd take a couple weeks off after doing 6 weeks of that, for good measure.

[RuhlFreak55]

Tballz is right start it at the end of your second week and then take it every day. 1mg/day at night since it makes you drowsy. Run this until the end of cycle.

You've got it right. Take keto every 3rd week without stopping clen.

I'd take a couple weeks off after doing 6 weeks of that, for good measure.

conflicting answers....but at least everyone can read now yayyyy

[RuhlFreak55]

He answered your question? Can't your read wtf? If u got your heart set on doing it a certain way just do it and quit acting like a 10 year old.

see above.....NO the question was not fully answered before

[tballz]

You will need to take it every day. Keto cleans out the receptors. I've never heard of taking it every 3rd week.

btw Benadryl does nothing.

[killface]

You will need to take it every day. Keto cleans out the receptors. I've never heard of taking it every 3rd week.

btw Benadryl does nothing.

It "cleans out the receptors" the same as taking the time off does. So, instead of 2 weeks on 1 week off, you stay on and do 1 week of keto instead of the week off.

I suppose you could take it every day but it'd be a waste imo.

[tballz]

If you want to stay on clen for the whole time to maximize fat burning then you'd take keto everyday with the clen.

[Phate]

It "cleans out the receptors" the same as taking the time off does. So, instead of 2 weeks on 1 week off, you stay on and do 1 week of keto instead of the week off.

I suppose you could take it every day but it'd be a waste imo.

upregulation is not "cleaning out receptors" at all

[tballz]

Right...you take keto to up-regulate the receptors. I was using laymen's terms..i guess.

[killface]

upregulation is not "cleaning out receptors" at all

That's why it's in quotes :P

[tballz]

I should have put mine in quotes.

[Phate]

lol, i'm having a pm conversation about upregulation and downregulation so i figured i'd throw it out there, no offense meant

[killface]

lol, i'm having a pm conversation about upregulation and downregulation so i figured i'd throw it out there, no offense meant

None taken. It's good that it has been noted.

[RuhlFreak55]

well i figured out i have enough keto to run it everyday after this week up til i drop it if i run it at 1mg....don't want it in the final week for sure because of possible carb up issues.

[americanoak]

Thanks for the info pharmdoc. Yea I never noticed anything great with benadryl either.