2nd Cycle Test + Tren A

[ATrain311]

Just finishing up my first cycle now and i am getting antsy to prepare my next cycle. for my 1st one i did 10 wk of 500mgs sus wk and dbol 20/20/30 with some extra test prop my friend had mixed into week 5-7. It yielded 30 lbs. here is what im thinking for my next cycle... I would like to add strength as my overall goal.

12 wk cycle
Dbol wk 1-3 20/30/40
Test E 250mg 2x wk wks 1-12
Tren A 100mgs eod wks 4-10

probably run nolva and clomid for PCT.

Age: 22
Height: 6'02
Weight: 230 > prolly be down to 215
Bf: 15%

How does that look?

[bjpennnn]

zzzzz your to young man. 22 and running tren no thanks.

[RANA]

I am not recommending you to take this cycle but if you do why don't you use prop over test E?
Where is the caber/bromo and what do you mean probably nolva and clomid for PCT?

[ATrain311]

thanks for the advice. heres what i think im gonna do.

12 wk cycle
Dbol wk 1-3 20/30/40
Test E 500mg wks 1-12 @ 250mgs 2x/week
Deca 500mgs wks 1-10 @ 250mgs 2x/week
nolvadex 20mgs ED

PCT 14 days after last pin
Nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid day 1 300 then 100/100/50/50
Gonna get Bromocriptin but need dosing advice.

what do ya'll think?

[marcus300]

In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

[Gaspari1255]

thanks for the advice. heres what i think im gonna do.

12 wk cycle
Dbol wk 1-3 20/30/40
Test E 500mg wks 1-12 @ 250mgs 2x/week
Deca 500mgs wks 1-10 @ 250mgs 2x/week
nolvadex 20mgs ED

PCT 14 days after last pin
Nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid day 1 300 then 100/100/50/50
Gonna get Bromocriptin but need dosing advice.

what do ya'll think?

Much better 2nd cycle choice compared to your last proposed cycle. You'll be happy with those results. Be careful with mixing Nolva and a 19-nor on cycle, I have heard some horror stories.

[lovbyts]

I dont recomend cycling at your age but you will do what you will do.

2nd choice better than the first. Tren is not something for someone who has only ran a couple cycles. It should really be left to the SERIOUS bodybuilder who has been training for years. Not someone who THINKS they are going to be serious. I would say only if you are ready or very near ready to competition size.

I figure if I keep working like I have been I MIGHT be ready for tren in 2 years.

[ATrain311]

Yeah I didnt mean to sound like a noob when I was thinking about taking tren. I do research on everything that goes in my body. I just got my research/info on tren from my workout partner who is currently using/endorsing it. He never mentioned that it would be inappropriate at my age. Thats why I joined this forum and consulted more experienced users for a 2nd opinion.