First cycle questions

[Royalstime]

ok this is goona piss off the vets i knoe, im new obvi and yea im considering to cycle, im 19 5'10 210. thing is i really dont wanna be any taller so my growth plates wont bug me. im not one of those guys that didnt do any reaserch, i was think test cyp at 500 per week for 12 weeks, i did lots of reaseach and disided to use a enti-es i read up on called...liquidex read that it was the best anti-es to use while on cycle. and for pct liquiamros for the same company im looking for some insite. thanks for the help i also have everything recomended on hand tell me wat yall think.

[bjpennnn]

your way to young yada yada yada you know that. Whats your bf%?

Growth plates fused it the least of your worries running gear at 19.

[Royalstime]

12%-15%

[bjpennnn]

seems like you are doing a bit of things rite, why screw it up? Keep doing what your doing for a few years, and keep learning and you will be a beast.

[Royalstime]

can u give me more feed back on wat else can happen?

[Royalstime]

whens a good time to start every one says 21 one some places say 18 can u tell me the big diffrence in 3 years?

[bjpennnn]

gyno (bitch tits & lactating nipples), chance at permanently hurting your natural test lvls, acne, male pattern baldness and depression for some when they come off. Especially at yoru age man, I hit a cycle and did not come off for 9 months and ended up needing to get two gyno surgeries cause i was lactating from my nips. Nothing says hello ladies like leaky nipples. Plus i am fortunate enough to have the money to get it done, gunna run you 3-5k ez for a surgery like that.

You honestly have really impressive stats for a 19 year old. Keep at it. You will be so happy you decided to wait.

[Royalstime]

man, is that becuz u started early or....?

[Royalstime]

and since ur helping me wat about igf-1? that bad or no?

[bjpennnn]

honestly your igf lvls and test lvls are through the freaken roof at your age! I am sure your knowledgeable (based on your stats)about creatine and protein powder, but if you arent both those help a lot.

[Royalstime]

i read that creatine is mostly water wieght?

[bjpennnn]

ya but it still helps in a million different ways, half the weight for some when they run test will be water weight also. I personally feel way more explosive, i can recover faster between sets and i am not as soar the next day.

[Phate]

i read that creatine is mostly water wieght?

creatine monohydrate has been shown to inhibit myostatin and contribute to increased skeletal muscle gains, it's the most studied supplement of all time

[Royalstime]

ok so i shud wait until im 21 then, but wont most of the same side u were talking about happen if u dont have the right things to prevent them? like anti-es and so on?

[Phate]

ok so i shud wait until im 21 then, but wont most of the same side u were talking about happen if u dont have the right things to prevent them? like anti-es and so on?

if you start AAS early you risk damage to your endocrine system, this system controls all your bodies hormones and hormones run EVERYTHING, that's basically it in a nutshell

[bjpennnn]

you should wait a couple years for sure 21 is still a little to young. We try to say 25 here. I am not going to lie I ran a cycle this last year on my 24 birthday.

[TITANIUM]

creatine monohydrate has been shown to inhibit myostatin and contribute to increased skeletal muscle gains, it's the most studied supplement of all time

Yes, it is...^^^^^^

OP-wait until your 25, as your stats are excellent right now.

You will screw up your HPTA @ your age.

Not worth it.

Best

T

[Royalstime]

thanks for everything ill wait, but im sticking around, maybe u guys can help me become a part of this little famliy. ill train up natty then move on from there thanks yall.

[LiftedDuramax2007]

Dont do it bud listen to these guys, they arent all saying this because they dont want to see you get any bigger.

If you feel like you arent producing alot of test at your age see if you can get tested. With my insurance I can get it done for free anytime I want.

Some people just dont end up producing enough test sometimes and you "could" get a patch prescription from the doc if you were having test level issues. But I doubt you are so just eat right and take the right supps (I recommend a mixed protein with caesin and whey and even egg white protein if you can). Creatine mono like others have stated, get a good multi-vitamin that contains more than just your normal ingredients.

Read up on taking some BCAAs I cant post any links to proof on BCAAs but I can tell you you do need to replenish your body with amino acids and these are a good combo with a good diet

[bjpennnn]

thanks for everything ill wait, but im sticking around, maybe u guys can help me become a part of this little famliy. ill train up natty then move on from there thanks yall.

bro if you stick around and read, no doubt you will be a beast.

Welcome to the board.

[LiftedDuramax2007]

bro if you stick around and read, no doubt you will be a beast.

Welcome to the board.

BJ, Do you have any idea what exactly set off your gyno?

[bjpennnn]

ya running pro hormones for 6 months then 9 months of gear stacking 2 19 nors tren deca and running high amounts of hcg through. Really i cant pin point the exact one but i had problems b4 i started cycle from the ph.

[LiftedDuramax2007]

ya running pro hormones for 6 months then 9 months of gear stacking 2 19 nors tren deca and running high amounts of hcg through. Really i cant pin point the exact one but i had problems b4 i started cycle from the ph.

I see, do you think taking .25 of arimidex would've helped? What week did you drop off the cycle if you did drop off the cycle?

[marcus300]

thanks for everything ill wait, but im sticking around, maybe u guys can help me become a part of this little famliy. ill train up natty then move on from there thanks yall.

That good to hear, well done

[bjpennnn]

its way to hard to say man i went from wanting to be a amateur bb to drinking ed prescription meds and 90 days house arrest. so dunno.

[BadNewsBerto]

Im not gonna bash you bro. I know alot of guys that hit it young, im not gonna say its the best way to go, and for the mlost part i agree with what the boys have to say on here, and i know i might catch some heat here but, i think that if your going to do it anyway, its best you get at least a little bit of sound advice, that being said......

I will agree that you may be too young, but if your dead set on hitting the juice a

simple test cycle is best. Enanthate or cyptionate @ 500mg/wk for 12 weeks. I

wouldnt use an AI (arimidex) during cycle unless you really need it, but a little water

retention is a good idea considering it will provide a little extra lubrication for you joints.

Most important thing to consider is proper diet and nutrition, hit up the diet forums and

have the guys help you out in this regard. For a cycle such as this a simple

staightfoward PCT would work well. Lets say starting 2 weeks after last injection you

go with clomid @ 50mgED for 4 weeks and nolvadex @ 40mg first 2 weeks and 20mg for

the second 2 weeks. Diet and training have to be kept up during your PCT, this is

extremely important, dont get lazy. So to sum it up:

Wks 1-12 Test E or C 500mg/wk
Wks 14-18 Clomid 50mg ED
Wks 14-16 Nolva 40mg ED & 16-18 20mg ED

If needed throw in adex @ .25mgED or .5mgEOD

Hope that helps...Just be safe, educate yourself, feel free to ask questions if you like.

[ironflames]

ill just add this, im 23 and now that im pretty much midway through the cycle, i kinda wished ida waited and just used my own potential to the fullest potential if i can say that