Prep'n for first cycle

[InknSteel]

Hey all, been reading a ton of topics here for the past few months and also have been talking with a fellow gym member about starting a cycle. So let me start with the basics, my stats are.....

Age 29
Height 5'11
Weight 185
BF 12%
Cycle experience n/a
Diet high protein low carbs low fat
Training 2 years, first 6 months all cardio, past 18 all lifting with 5 min cardio warmup. 5 days a week 1-1.5hrs focusing on seperate body parts per day.
PCT Nolva, clomid

So a little back story here since it's my main reason for posting. I had gastric bypass surgery 2 years ago, lost over 150lbs. I was very happy at first but once the weight was gone a I started to feel just as bad about my body as I did pre-op. So I starting hitting the gym, adjusted my diet, tried every possible "stack" I could string together from crap at GNC. After over a year of heavy weight training and diet adjustments I got some nice cuts and tone but only put on about 10lbs of muscle. I def feel better about myself now but I would like a little more (25-30lbs). So my biggest question is there anything I should know about starting a cycle after gastric bypass? Anything I should be more cautious about? The cycle I am most likely going to take is the following....

Test-E 500mg a week for 12 weeks (250mg 2x a week)
Dbol weeks 1-4 40mg/day

PCT mixture of Nolva and clomid

Pretty much the cycle posted for beginners by Phate (great post, thanks!!) So hopefully this is a good start, look forward to any/all positive & informative feedback. Also look forward to being an active part of the community. Also i'm still in my research stages of this, as long as my blood work comes in good I plan to start toward the middle of March.

[bjpennnn]

looks solid man, good luck!

[marcus300]

Sounds like you have done your research, best of luck

[bjohnson1968]

Hey Bro congrats on the transformation Keep it up!!!

The one thing I see is no mention of an AI on hand for any gyno related issues

You should have it ON Hand I wouldnt use it unless you start to get gyno IMHO

Peace

[InknSteel]

Thanks for the positive feedback! I'm getting all my gear (cycle & pct) at the same time, so I will have the nolva and clomid on hand for any gyno related issues. Planning on using the nolva during my cycle if anything comes up. I know it will lessen my gains but I plan on doing a few cycles so if I retain more water it's not a huge deal to me. Do you have another recommendation? Also does anyone have experience with cycling after gastric bypass? That is my biggest concern at the moment, thanks again.

[InknSteel]

So after some more research i'm grabbing some Letro to have on hand for gyno during cycle. I do have 2 last questions before I start.

1. I'll be starting to take Liv.52 2 weeks before I cycle because of the dbol, how long after I stop the dbol should I stop the Liv? Or is it good to just stay on it reguardless?

2. My source seems legit (can't pm mods yet to check here) so i'm not getting the whole 12 week supply of test, if I get and use the 6 weeks i'm ordering and either decide to try another source or get a Vial from this source (ordering amps first) is it ok to use test from different labs on the same cycle or should I just order my whole cycle at once and keep my fingers crossed?

Thanks in advance

[lexruger]

i would definently get all your gear first before you start in case something comes up and prevents you from getting the rest of your cycle then your stuck with only 6 weeks of gear and a screwed up cycle.

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[InknSteel]

Good call, thanks

[firearmsfreddy]

I'm pretty much gonna be starting the same cycle as you, I'm 29 and 180lbs.
Only thing that worries me is that dbol can cause hair loss

Hope that doesn't happen! I'm too beautiful to go bald!

[Focusmen]

I'm pretty much gonna be starting the same cycle as you, I'm 29 and 180lbs.
Only thing that worries me is that dbol can cause hair loss

Hope that doesn't happen! I'm too beautiful to go bald!

all steriods can cause premature hair loss.... expecially tes

[InknSteel]

I'm 2 weeks in now and have no more hair lose than I had starting, it is still very early in my cycle though and I shave my head so I could really care less. Just less I will have to shave gl with your cycle

[Arian]

InknSteel, I swear I thought you were my best friend posting on here for a minute. He's 30, 6'2" and about 260lbs right now. He used to be over 500lbs and had the gastric bypass surgery a few years ago. He started working out hard with me about a year later (about 3 years ago) and he got down to about 220lbs. It's funny cause that's about exactly what he used to do. Nothing but an hour or more of cardio every day until I started working out with him. Then he got into it, started taking lots of supplements and working hard. Unfortunately, he recently had to have a surgery to remove one of his boys from injuries in his past. Ever since then, he's started to gain some fat and doesn't seem like he's gaining as much muscle as before. Didn't mean to hijack your thread, just thought your story was really similar to my friend's. Other than the one ball part. lol

[gixxerboy1]

So after some more research i'm grabbing some Letro to have on hand for gyno during cycle. I do have 2 last questions before I start.

1. I'll be starting to take Liv.52 2 weeks before I cycle because of the dbol, how long after I stop the dbol should I stop the Liv? Or is it good to just stay on it reguardless?

2. My source seems legit (can't pm mods yet to check here) so i'm not getting the whole 12 week supply of test, if I get and use the 6 weeks i'm ordering and either decide to try another source or get a Vial from this source (ordering amps first) is it ok to use test from different labs on the same cycle or should I just order my whole cycle at once and keep my fingers crossed?

Thanks in advance

yes you can mix from different labs.

but again i wouldnt start to you have everything. Shit happens and you dont want to run out in the middle.

[InknSteel]

Arian - The weight came off very quickly for me, I was really sick for the first 6 months and lost most of the weight in those 6 months (was over 300lbs). Gastric bypass works wonders for loosing the weight but does bring challenges if your trying to bulk up. My biggest problem was getting enough food in to get my cal and protein required for bulking. Since I can only eat small meals I have to split my 6 meals a day to almost 12 to get it all in. Plus with the bypass my body digests food differently and some foods still make me sick. It's def has been a challenge but will be worth it in the end. Hopefully I won't end loosing a nut like your bud, thats one thing I rather not have in common lol

gixxerboy1 - I ended up getting my whole cycle from my source and it made it here so all is good. I didn't start until I had everything. Been running 2 weeks so far.