Bumping up test at end of cycle

**liftw8t** · 02-18-2010, 01:55 PM

Curious on i guess this would be called back loading, due to bumping up the test at beginning of cycle is called front loading, anyone have any thoughts on back loading and when it should be done. The proposed cycle is 500mg of test e 8-10wk, i guess the back load would be up to 600mg-750mg i guess but not quite sure when it would be started like how close to end of cycle.

**Hard.On** · 02-18-2010, 01:56 PM

Im curious to see the ansewrs to this question

Im guessing that your body is going to have to work 10x harder to regain proper test levels due to the sudden high spike and then cut off period

**liftw8t** · 02-18-2010, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by twotimer

Im curious to see the ansewrs to this question

Im guessing that your body is going to have to work 10x harder to regain proper test levels due to the sudden high spike and then cut off period

true very true thats why i wondering if it is wise to backload, also i have seen many finish with oral from last shot to pct

**LiftedDuramax2007** · 02-18-2010, 02:02 PM

Also interested to see what the pros have to say

**Just2Big** · 02-18-2010, 02:05 PM

I have read if you going to bump your test at any point in your cycle do it at the begining and taper down to 250 a week the last 2 weeks if you want. But any amount will still have your natural test shut down. But it makes sence that you body rebounding off 250 of test would be way easier that coming back off at 750. Im no pro this is just what I have read.

**axemurderer187** · 02-18-2010, 02:10 PM

why are you considering this? most would say frontloading would make more sense? I personally don't pyramid doses, if you had to pic I'd say front load with some orals for the first 5 weeks.

When ending your cycle trying to come off smoothly would be the smartest idea.

**jccnewbie** · 02-18-2010, 02:10 PM

Why would you want to spike your test levels at the end of your cycle to make it that much harder for your body to produce it's own?? Doesn't sound very smart to me, but I'm sure someone else here can tell you for sure.

**liftw8t** · 02-18-2010, 02:43 PM

no i dont plan on entertaining this idea i'm just trying to see the logic in it personally. But everything makes sense and I do agree it would be harder for your body to recover off of 750mg of test oppossed to 500mg

**marcus300** · 02-18-2010, 02:53 PM

There is no reason to bump up the test dose at the end of a cycle, if you havent produced the required gains after 12 weeks you need to come off and reconsider your approach.

When you hear backload mentioned it means adding an oral to the stack for the last few weeks leading up to PCT it doesnt mean bumping up the test dose, all your going to do there is give yourself one hell of a ride on your hormones when you just about to come off and go into PCT.

When you frontload its to get your blood levels running at peak concentration rather than waiting 4-5 weeks till it builds up with the injections, at the end of the cycle your test levels would of been running at peak for many wks so in theory there is no need to up the test dose but backloading an oral is another matter

**liftw8t** · 02-18-2010, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

There is no reason to bump up the test dose at the end of a cycle, if you havent produced the required gains after 12 weeks you need to come off and reconsider your approach.

When you hear backload mentioned it means adding an oral to the stack for the last few weeks leading up to PCT it doesnt mean bumping up the test dose, all your going to do there is give yourself one hell of a ride on your hormones when you just about to come off and go into PCT.

When you frontload its to get your blood levels running at peak concentration rather than waiting 4-5 weeks till it builds up with the injections, at the end of the cycle your test levels would of been running at peak for many wks so in theory there is no need to up the test dose but backloading an oral is another matter

well marcus explain the backloading of an oral, also i knew you were ****ing huge man, nice avatar picture

**Spartans09** · 02-18-2010, 04:49 PM

What about running prop during the peroid from your last long ester shot to the start of pct? Any value in this?

**Vitruvian-Man** · 02-18-2010, 05:25 PM

You guys this question is quite simple! I'm really surprised there is so much interest in the answer, lol. Anyways, this is basically what your options are leading up to the PCT:

1.) Backload with an oral. You would continue to run it right up until the day before PCT should begin. (IE)....
Test-E (weeks 1 - 12) @ 500mg/wk
Anavar (or) Winstrol (weeks 9 - 14) @ 50mg/ed

If using an oral during this time many would opt for DHT-derivatives (for hardening/cutting). IMO, unless you're using an estrogen control you should not use compounds like d-bol or anadrol at the end of a cycle, because they will spike your estro-levels (at a time when they're already ~ peaking..)

2.) Backload with a short-estered compound. In this case you would begin PCT 3 days after last injection of the prop. (IE)....
Test-E (weeks 1 - 12) @ 500mg/wk
Test-Prop (weeks 13 - 14) @ 75mg/ed

3.) You could just use clen /T3 to cut, while waiting for the lingering testosterone to clear your body.

-VM