Quick Cycle critique, tren/prop/var

**go4gold** · 02-19-2010, 10:37 AM

Current Stats- Age 31 5’6” 153-155lbs small frame, About 16% BF
Lifting Hx- Since age 16, Use to compete in Olympic style Lifting.
Cycle Hx- 6-7 cycles, Mostly just var only cycles, but have done test, deca , d-bol, and eq.

Tren A- 75mg/ ED 1-6wks
Test Prop- 50mg/ ED 1-8wks
Anavar - 80mg/ ED 1-8wks
Clomid- 100/50/50/50 9-13wks
Nolva- 20/20/20/20 9-13wks
Caber- 0.5mg/ E3D 1-6wks
A-dex 0.25m/ EOD 1-8wks
Propecia- (Not sure if I am at risk for MPB. Hair thinned out a while back when on d-bol, but grew right back. How should I dose this, Just want to take it a precautionary approach.)

Diet- CKD for the first 4 weeks to promote fat loss, then slowly increase cals and carbs the final 6 weeks for lean muscle growth( Hopefully).

Goals- Achieve about a 160ishlbs and drop about 3%bf. And impressive strength gains. I think 160-165 would be a great size for my frame if I am solid.

Bench max- 285lbs (lost a bit from recent cutting diet, 320lbs in November)
Squat Max- 335lbs (Right now, but has been a lot higher in the past)
Pull ups- 25 reps
Power Clean- 225lbs (Weak compared to what I used to do, But getting older)

Alright guys, Tried to do my reserch on this.

**Reed** · 02-19-2010, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by go4gold

Current Stats- Age 31 5’6” 153-155lbs small frame, About 16% BF
Lifting Hx- Since age 16, Use to compete in Olympic style Lifting.
Cycle Hx- 6-7 cycles, Mostly just var only cycles, but have done test, deca , d-bol, and eq.

Tren A- 75mg/ ED 1-6wks
Test Prop- 50mg/ EOD 1-8wks
Anavar - 80mg/ ED 1-8wks
Clomid- 100/50/50/50 9-13wks
Nolva- 20/20/20/20 9-13wks
Caber- 0.5mg/ E3D 1-6wks
A-dex 0.25m/ EOD 1-8wks
Propecia- (Not sure if I am at risk for MPB. Hair thinned out a while back when on d-bol, but grew right back. How should I dose this, Just want to take it a precautionary approach.)

Diet- CKD for the first 4 weeks to promote fat loss, then slowly increase cals and carbs the final 6 weeks for lean muscle growth( Hopefully).

Goals- Achieve about a 160ishlbs and drop about 3%bf. And impressive strength gains. I think 160-165 would be a great size for my frame if I am solid.

Bench max- 285lbs (lost a bit from recent cutting diet, 320lbs in November)
Squat Max- 335lbs (Right now, but has been a lot higher in the past)
Pull ups- 25 reps
Power Clean- 225lbs (Weak compared to what I used to do, But getting older)

Alright guys, Tried to do my reserch on this.

The cycle looks good,

I personally only use ancillaries as needed, less drugs the better but understand prevention is the best protocol.

**go4gold** · 02-19-2010, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Reed

The cycle looks good,

I personally only use ancillaries as needed, less drugs the better but understand prevention is the best protocol.

I know, But all the horror stories makes me a bit concerned. But your right prevention is best protocal.

Thanks guys for the input so far.

**Reed** · 02-19-2010, 10:52 AM

Propecia usually dosed at 1mg a day btw.

**chuckt12345** · 02-19-2010, 10:56 AM

looks fine,, i would drop var since you got the tren in there,, let that do the work

**RANA** · 02-19-2010, 11:18 AM

With the cycle I would increase tren to 8 weeks and go with prop for 9 weeks.

My concern is this will be your 7-8 cycle and you're "5’6” 153-155lbs small frame, About 16% BF"

You should check your diet

**go4gold** · 02-19-2010, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by RANA

With the cycle I would increase tren to 8 weeks and go with prop for 9 weeks.

My concern is this will be your 7-8 cycle and you're "5’6” 153-155lbs small frame, About 16% BF"

You should check your diet

Man, I'm just not a big guy and never will be and dont care for that, I look big for my size and have weighed as much as 180lbs. I knew this would come up. A very lean 160lbs with my height and frame would look pretty big, But I will always look smaller compared to someone 200+ unless either I try and look like someone who does nothing but juice and lives in a gym or sits on a couch and lets my ass grow. Its not as easy for all to be thig big guy. An athletic, lean, and very powerful 160-165 is what I am looking for, we all have different goals. The cycles are over 10 years. I have had a few set back, surgery, jobs schedule changes, etc. But you are right man, diet will play a big part. How big do you think I should be out of curiosity? What if I run the tren to 7 weeks?

**RANA** · 02-19-2010, 11:44 AM

You are fine if you go with 7 weeks, but I would plan on 8 weeks and if you want to stop at 6 or 7 you can, but you might fall in love with tren . You might want to run caber in your PCT.

**go4gold** · 02-19-2010, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by RANA

You are fine if you go with 7 weeks, but I would plan on 8 weeks and if you want to stop at 6 or 7 you can, but you might fall in love with tren. You might want to run caber in your PCT.

Dude, Your getting me excited. Guess we shall see how long I do end up running it. I do hear many good things with tren if done properly and cautiously. Should I just run the caber through the entire pct?