how long after test cycle before cutting

**ml87** · 02-19-2010, 08:54 PM

hey guys..
5'11
205lbs
4500 cals/day
went from 13%bf to 17%bf.

i just ended my 12 wk test e cycle last week. 500mg/week. i made some great gains but for some reason gained alot of bf. diet was very strict. i am starting my pct next week.
I was wondering when i can start a winstrol cycle? i have never ran winstrol before but know many pals who had great success with it.

if you can find any reason to flame, please dont.. i accept constructive criticism but i dont flame so please dont flame me. thanks bros!

**bjpennnn** · 02-19-2010, 08:56 PM

I would wait till after pct but get that diet in check cuase you def gained a bit of fat. Cutting and bulking is all about diet, taking winny is not going to help you lose fat if you dont have your diet in check.

**ml87** · 02-19-2010, 09:04 PM

its funny though because i have no idea where all that fat came from. My diet was the same as it has been for months before the cycle. usually when i use test i lose bf. its that damn desk job i started 5 moths ago. even an hour on the treadmill cant make up for it. thanks bj, ill wait til after the pct. its also funny because people have comment that i bulked up alot but also look like i lost alot of bf.

**bjpennnn** · 02-19-2010, 09:05 PM

lol. Well maybe you should post your diet in the diet section, maybe there is something wrong with it that you just dont see. Good luck man.

**stevey_6t9** · 02-19-2010, 10:24 PM

Dont run winstrol . I would get bloodwork done, and once your base test levels have returned to normal I would alter my diet, up my cardio and do a cut.

**laduem88** · 02-19-2010, 10:26 PM

idk personally i could never cut without being on a cycle...i would lean bulk until your able to start another cycle agian (time on=time off)

maybe do:

test p/winny or something simple like that for your next cycle...definitely look into test p

**stevey_6t9** · 02-19-2010, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by laduem88

idk personally i could never cut without being on a cycle...i would lean bulk until your able to start another cycle agian (time on=time off)

maybe do:

test p/winny or something simple like that for your next cycle...definitely look into test p

He's 21 and has done 3 cycles already. I would not recommend him doing anymore at such a young age.

**laduem88** · 02-19-2010, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by stevey_6t9

He's 21 and has done 3 cycles already. I would not recommend him doing anymore at such a young age.

well he should get bloodwork then, just like anyone who cycles should do...if he's already done cycles, and if his bloodwork comes back ok, i dont see why he couldnt keep cycling responsibly

**ml87** · 02-20-2010, 08:09 PM

im almost 23 in april. where does it say 21? i am going to post my diet asap and hopefully fix myself through altering.. i already have 2 strict cardio days and on the other days i do half hr of cardio too.