cycle advice needed for orals only

**steelydave11** · 02-21-2010, 09:56 PM

Can someone give me a detailed cycle for bulking using orals only? I will not inject. Thanks.

**redz** · 02-21-2010, 09:59 PM

Give us some stats and cycle experience.

**steelydave11** · 02-21-2010, 10:07 PM

I'm 5'11", 220 lbs, 14% bf, been lifting for a few years, have spent last year cycling with SUS500, PCT with Nolvadex although it probably wasnt needed. Great results during the month I combined SUS500 with Anavar . So what are your thoughts on an advanced cycle using orals? Thanks.

**redz** · 02-21-2010, 10:17 PM

There are a few combinations or orals people say work well even without test. I believe the anavar /tbol stack is good though I personally I have never ran orals only. I prefer to run test in all my cycles. You will still need a pct too.

**dec11** · 02-21-2010, 10:40 PM

sus500, neva heard of it??? as redz pointed out, best to have some test in there.

**Bonaparte** · 02-21-2010, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by declan11

sus500, neva heard of it??? as redz pointed out, best to have some test in there.

Its a PH comprised of 2 progestigenic "Tren " (dienolone) compounds. Real popular for some reason.

**dec11** · 02-21-2010, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Its a PH comprised of 2 progestigenic "Tren" (dienolone) compounds. Real popular for some reason.

ah, i see, had images of a really painful sust injection there lol

**Bonaparte** · 02-21-2010, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by declan11

ah, i see, had images of a really painful sust injection there lol

Haha. Maybe a 500mg, 1CC, Redi-ject with an 18g harpoon on it?

**BIG_GUNS_21** · 02-21-2010, 11:44 PM

Why wont you inject?

**lovbyts** · 02-22-2010, 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by BIG_GUNS_21

Why wont you inject?

Because he is not ready for AAS obviously and has not done enough research.

There are some people who seem to LOVE to pin. I ma NOT one of them. I still hate it but I have educated myself enough to know it is the best way to do it safely and not destroy my liver for some short term gains.

**CanYouDigIt** · 02-22-2010, 04:45 AM

because he is under-age afraid of needles move on, not ready for aas. too young.

**bjohnson1968** · 02-22-2010, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by CanYouDigIt

because he is under-age afraid of needles move on, not ready for aas. too young.

This under age thing is a bunch of crap (in the thought that age should dictate guidance) constantly people on here just toss youngsters to the side
Why is that ? That's like playing a football game without a coach.
The prohormone he is refering to is a very powerful drug that can produce nasty side effects. I have an 18 yr old son I cant imagine just shipping him off without guidance.

This is a Question and ANSWER forum for those who do NOT know that.

Listen son if you are a youngster stop with the prohormones and put your desire to do aas on hold until your done growing inside and out. I know first hand the ill side effects these substances can cause for an undeveloped teenager. Your natty test is through the roof take advantage of that with a solid diet and hard work

Peace

**AnimalJ** · 02-22-2010, 10:20 AM

im fairly new to the game but i can tell you that you have your whole life to bulk and cut and this is that. Although the liver may be resilient and have great regenerative properties you only have One! Take care of it, its pointless to be jacked and ripped laying in a coffin.

**dec11** · 02-22-2010, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by bjohnson1968

This under age thing is a bunch of crap (in the thought that age should dictate guidance) constantly people on here just toss youngsters to the side
Why is that ? That's like playing a football game without a coach.
The prohormone he is refering to is a very powerful drug that can produce nasty side effects. I have an 18 yr old son I cant imagine just shipping him off without guidance.

This is a Question and ANSWER forum for those who do NOT know that.

Listen son if you are a youngster stop with the prohormones and put your desire to do aas on hold until your done growing inside and out. I know first hand the ill side effects these substances can cause for an undeveloped teenager. Your natty test is through the roof take advantage of that with a solid diet and hard work

Peace

oh right, and your the new authority? they arent tossed aside, they are warned that they can cause damage to themselves and most tend to argue back and thts when they are sent on their merry way

**bjohnson1968** · 02-22-2010, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by declan11

oh right, and your the new authority? they arent tossed aside, they are warned that they can cause damage to themselves and most tend to argue back and thts when they are sent on their merry way

Thats funny I guess you didnt read the above post did you

Peace

**bjohnson1968** · 02-22-2010, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by CanYouDigIt

because he is under-age afraid of needles move on, not ready for aas. too young.

Good advise here isnt it declan

Peace

**dec11** · 02-22-2010, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by bjohnson1968

Good advise here isnt it declan

Peace

ah, i get you, thought you meant in general, apologies

**lexruger** · 02-22-2010, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by declan11

oh right, and your the new authority? they arent tossed aside, they are warned that they can cause damage to themselves and most tend to argue back and thts when they are sent on their merry way

i think what he was trying to say was that instead of just telling them not to do it and just leaving it at that isnt always the best approach because as many guys here know a lot of newbies are gonna do it no matter what we tell them to do and as much as we dont want to help with there stupidity if there hell bent on doing it he was trying to say we should give them constructive guidance not just a slap on the back and tell them to come back in a few years.

**bjohnson1968** · 02-22-2010, 10:40 AM

Na you were mistaking Trust me I totally agree on not starting aas or phsto early (like I said I have an 18yr old) and I know its frustrating saying the same thing over and over I guess I just believe if 1 out of 10 can be talked out of it then its worth it

Peace