Test E/winny

[The Specialist]

Hi Guys,

So after further research I decided to add test to what was going to be a Winny only cycle. So this is what I am thinking.

I will do 400 mg's of test E a week( twice a week at 200) for 12 weeks.

Someone I was talking to said to do the winny weeks 1-4 and 8-12. This way I gain the benefits of no water retention and it will help combat gyno. Does this sound wise? He recommends 30mg's a day.. Do you think there is any point to this? I already have the winny and would like to incorporate but where and at what dose.

Most People seem to do the winny at the end.

For pct I will do Clomid which I have already. Should I add Nolva? What dose of the clomid should I do? Test e dictates that I start pct 2 weeks after last injection. How does the winny fit in here?

I know a lot of questions. I have been doing a lot of research and listen to what you guys say, hence the move to add Test.

[c-Z]

30mgs a day... I have seen females run it at that dose. Rather high for a female if i recall correctly.. BUT rather low for a male. I would personally run the winny at the end.

Yes add nolva to your pct.
Do something like:
Clomid- 100/50/50/50
Nolva- 40/20/20/20

[The Specialist]

Thanks C-z..


I'm running the test weeks 1-12. If I run the winny at the end would I run it weeks 8-14? Then start pct? Or just do it 6-12 and then wait 2 weeks to start pct?


Also it looks to stay lean and keep your water retention to a minimum you want to keep your test dose low. will 4-500 mg's a week below enough to keep it at bay?

I thought 30 a day was low but he said since I'm running it with test 30 is good?

[pilotR1]

i ran test-e 500mg/week with oral winny 50mg/day for 6 weeks. retained water, no question about it. with winny you want the water, cause it will dry up your tendons and joints, so test-e will help you out a bit there. winny will not help you combat gyno, so don't count on it. i would just run the winny all the way through, but that's just me. also, i like shorter cycles because i tend to see more sides after week 5.

[The Specialist]

6 weeks? Everything I have read says you should do test for 10-12 weeks..


Pilot what gains did you see from your short cycle?

[pilotR1]

gained 18 pounds, lost about 6 afterwords. i believe that gear is not the most important part of the cycle. proper diet and training is what makes you put on quality muscle, gear helps you overcome genetic limits and speeds up the whole process. the results i'm looking for are lean muscle and healthy body. i don't run more than 3 cycles a year. never ran a long cycle on any gear because i know my liver can only handle so much, acne starts around week 5, and i often have to travel for work (which throws off the whole cycle as i can't eat and train properly). but that's just me, you can do whatever you prefer.

[TITANIUM]

I would suggest running the winny at the end.

Since it will help you with the bloat you may get from the test.

(in most cases).

CZ has solid advice for the PCT protacol.


Best

T

[The Specialist]

Thanks guys!

I will follow the pct.

What about armidex for the bloat and water retention? This will also combat any problems with gyno correct?

[TITANIUM]

Thanks guys!

I will follow the pct.

What about armidex for the bloat and water retention? This will also combat any problems with gyno correct?

Yes, but to much will wipe out your estrogen wich you need.

It's a balancing act of sorts wich are different from user to user.

.25 mgs EOD is fine.

Best

T

[number28]

someone pls answer the OP's question..."Test e dictates that I start pct 2 weeks after last injection. How does the winny fit in here? "

[TITANIUM]

someone pls answer the OP's question..."Test e dictates that I start pct 2 weeks after last injection. How does the winny fit in here? "

Last for wks of the cycle, actually weeks 11,12,13,14.

Then PCT.

Best

T

[TITANIUM]

You can run it longer than 4 wks, but your joints will hate you along with other sides.

Test E is such a long ester, even starting pct 2 wks afterwards, the test E is still foatind around.


Best

T

[mg1228]

i ran test-e 500mg/week with oral winny 50mg/day for 6 weeks. retained water, no question about it. with winny you want the water, cause it will dry up your tendons and joints, so test-e will help you out a bit there. winny will not help you combat gyno, so don't count on it. i would just run the winny all the way through, but that's just me. also, i like shorter cycles because i tend to see more sides after week 5.

ur gettin sides at week 5 cause thats when the test is kickin in--wtf

u need to be running prop if ur only goin 6 weeks--

op please dont listen to this