cycle critique

[OldManRiver]

Stats
Age: 31
Height: 6'4
Weight: 230
BF%: 16%
Cycle Exp: second cycle
PCT Knowledge: limited
Training Exp: 6 yrs+
Diet: 3500-4000 40% protein, 40%, 20% fat, pretty clean with chicken fish rice oatmeal, all bland ****ing shit.... I am so happy with this bland as **** diet. It is so delecious... I have been eating this way for about 8 months. For meals a day with two whey protien shakes (morning, pwo). Multi-vitamin morning/night

I am ready for my "first" real cycle. Last time I cycled in college about 7 years ago with no pct, but it turned out fine. Low dose oral and only 8 weeks. Added about 10 pounds of muscle. I want to add muscle mass and lose body fat. I don't want to gain more than 20 pounds. What I really want to do is keep my gains after I am through with the cycle and PCT.


Here is what I am thinking about.
3 week cycle of clenbuterol
8 week cycle:
Test enanthate 400mg/week (2shots mon/thur)
Test Prop 50mg E3D
Sustanon 200mg/week

arimidex .25mg/E3D from week 4-10
HCG 500mg/week (mon/wed/fri) from week 4-10


Two weeks after last test E shot I start PCT
nolvadex 100mg/day for 2 weeks; 50mg/day for 2 weeks
at week 2 of PCT three week cycle of clenbuterol.

Please let me know your thoughts.
clomid 25mg/day for 4 weeks



This cycle will consist of 8 weeks of test

[OldManRiver]

Oops I forgot that I also will be doing clomid 20mg/day for four weeks with the nolvadex .

[CanYouDigIt]

I think you have too much different sorts of test, for a first cycle, and injecting soo many times becomes a pain your better off start with test enan 500 weekly, it'll be easy give you good gains,

and your already adding clen for your fat burning, you could just add more cardio session, just test enan, with a good diet will get you 20-30 pounds, but you won't probably see it that way because ull be losing fat at sametime,

also I think ur nolvadex is a bit high, If I remenber right its 40/20/20/20, and 100/50/50/50 for your clomid, but my brain is really up in the air currently due to pain killer but someone might be able to correct me if im wrong.

[jordann]

Drop the prop, sustanon & clen .

Run your test e @ 500mg/week for 10-12 weeks.

Since this is your first real cycle you want to see how your body is going to react. Less is more in this situation.

Test e @ 500mg shot Monday morning/Thursday evening.

Nolva on hand in case of gyno symptoms. You'll be fine running nolva standalone as PCT. Throw the HCG in if you want your boys to hang low.

[OldManRiver]

Yes, I switched the Clomid and Nolvadex . So no one thinks the arimdex .25mg E3D is needed on a cycle at this dosage? Nolvadex should be kept on hand incase of gyno for reactive measures? I thought it was better to be preventitive with arimidex for gyno. I really don't want that side effect.... Anyones thiughts?
I will drop the test prop, and up the test ent to 500mg/week but doesn't anyone think sustanon 250mg might give me that extra boost?

I guess I want to be able to see some weight gain. I would like to finish this cycle at 240-250, that's 10-20 pounds MORE than what I weigh now. Won't the test E just harden me up and lose that bf%? I want to be a little bigger too. Anyone have thoughts on this logic?

[6ft5]

I'm shure u will gain @500 t-e for 12wks I'd run sum clen at the end. Save the other for next time. Cuz I'm shure u will want it.