Big Concern -- Roommate on AAS

[Vullfromsc]

Just posting with concern to my roommate who is currently taking AAS...
His stats are:
height: 5'11"
weight: 205 lbs
body fat: 10-11% (lean as hell and very thin waist)
cycle exp: he ran test e at 500mg a week for 12 weeks last semester
age: 20

His stats shouldn't matter, the only one that matters is age... this is the problem:
He hears all this stupid s**t at the gym and doesn't understand the dangers of running AAS at this age... He is currently running (try not to cringe):

week 1-14 test e 750mg a week
week 1-4 dbol 50mg a day
week 11-13 stanzanol 50mg a day

pct is standard (starting 2 weeks after last shot i guess):
week 1-4 clomid 100/50/50/50
week 1-4 nolvadex 40/20/20/20

arimidex on hand (he takes it like its candy)

He is on week 6 right now and I'm trying to get him to stop at 8 or 10 weeks, but he wont listen (f**king thick headed)...

I try explaining he will never be able to get his natural test to recover and that he won't be able to f**k without viagra or cialis ever again..

He's already planning his next cycle and he wants to do:
week 1-16 sust at 1000mg a week
week 1-14 deca at 600mg a week

HE IS GOING TO F**KING DIE

I read on here a lot and try to educate myself so I am prepared when I am old enough to do AAS.. but he thinks I'm exaggerating.. what should I do?

[lexruger]

buy a life insurance policy on his ass....

obviously you have told him the dangers but hes too thick headed to listen. The only way he's gonna learn is the hard way or if you take his gear from him.

[Vullfromsc]

find a new roomate?

I'm concerned for his general health.. not sure if I'm living with him next year lol

[the big 1]

Just posting with concern to my roommate who is currently taking AAS...
His stats are:
height: 5'11"
weight: 205 lbs
body fat: 10-11% (lean as hell and very thin waist)
cycle exp: he ran test e at 500mg a week for 12 weeks last semester
age: 20

His stats shouldn't matter, the only one that matters is age... this is the problem:
He hears all this stupid s**t at the gym and doesn't understand the dangers of running AAS at this age... He is currently running (try not to cringe):

week 1-14 test e 750mg a week
week 1-4 dbol 50mg a day
week 11-13 stanzanol 50mg a day

pct is standard (starting 2 weeks after last shot i guess):
week 1-4 clomid 100/50/50/50
week 1-4 nolvadex 40/20/20/20

arimidex on hand (he takes it like its candy)

He is on week 6 right now and I'm trying to get him to stop at 8 or 10 weeks, but he wont listen (f**king thick headed)...

I try explaining he will never be able to get his natural test to recover and that he won't be able to f**k without viagra or cialis ever again..

He's already planning his next cycle and he wants to do:
week 1-16 sust at 1000mg a week
week 1-14 deca at 600mg a week

HE IS GOING TO F**KING DIE

I read on here a lot and try to educate myself so I am prepared when I am old enough to do AAS.. but he thinks I'm exaggerating.. what should I do?

Yes he is too young, but i doubt very much he will die!

His natty test wont be completly shut down, however, he hasnt finished maturing fully in that area of his body which could cause problems later on for things like sex drive and limp dick.

[JockReborn]

All you can do with people like that is give them the info. I wish I had the info available now years ago. It's like having friends that don't use a seatbelt. They know it's potentially dangerous but won't wear one until something scares the hell out of them.

Youth is wasted on the young.

-J

[Chimera44]

Ya, everything I have read says that hormonal maturity in men is reached at age 21 on average or 6 years after puberty starts. Iv heard but havnt read legit articles that say that you arent fully done till you're 25 but idk. That aside, he is taking WAY too much and for way too long. Thats considered really heavy for most seasoned vets lol. If he's going to do that much then he will need one hell of a cadillac PCT lol. Best of luck to him though, one thing Iv learned is that 9/10 guys in the iron game are really stubborn and dont take advice unless its from someone bigger than he is. Maybe find someone who he looks up to and talk to him to try and get him to chill on the gear a little bit.

[JockReborn]

one thing Iv learned is that 9/10 guys in the iron game are really stubborn and dont take advice unless its from someone bigger than he is. Maybe find someone who he looks up to and talk to him to try and get him to chill on the gear a little bit.

Good advice....

-J

[bjohnson1968]

OP you seem to know alot about your "ROOM MATES" cycle dont you think

seems a bit fishy smellin to me JMHO

Peace

[bigjoe30]

OP you seem to know alot about your "ROOM MATES" cycle dont you think

seems a bit fishy smellin to me JMHO

Peace

LOL! just a little

[Hard.On]

yep,
has he been waking up with a boner every morning?

Im just guessing you know

[Bullnutz]

yep,
has he been waking up with a boner every morning?

Im just guessing you know

Thats awesome.All negative things aside,that is a nice cycle except for poppin rimi like candy.Thats stupid.

[Hard.On]

Thats awesome.All negative things aside,that is a nice cycle except for poppin rimi like candy.Thats stupid.

Im just messin around because I know its him on the cycle

[LeroyB]

[daem]

The cycle he is doing is mild, I wouldn't worry.

At 20 he might not yet be finished growing, but the body is resilient and can rebound from cycles like that very effectively earlier on in life.

I don't understand why you think he is going to die...You seem to demonstrate some fairly competent knowledge of his compounds and dosages, yet you are worried for his health?

Seriously, is this kid you?

[davidboy]

Im just messin around because I know its him on the cycle

[dec11]

The cycle he is doing is mild, I wouldn't worry.

At 20 he might not yet be finished growing, but the body is resilient and can rebound from cycles like that very effectively earlier on in life.

I don't understand why you think he is going to die...You seem to demonstrate some fairly competent knowledge of his compounds and dosages, yet you are worried for his health?

Seriously, is this kid you?

seriously? thats real good advice

[daem]

seriously? thats real good advice

It wasn't advice, it was my own judgment of the compounds the OP mentioned after taking into consideration that the OP thinks his roommate is going to die.

Who are you again?

[c-Z]

Honestly there is nothing wrong with the cycle. The only thing wrong is he is slightly young.......

[dec11]

It wasn't advice, it was my own judgment of the compounds the OP mentioned after taking into consideration that the OP thinks his roommate is going to die.

Who are you again?

its still a heavy enuf cycle for a youngster to be using, you sound like your condoning it, thts my point. who am i? always me mate

[TinyTexan]

yeah it isnt a deal killer by any means. maybe not the smartest out there but nowhere near a death sentance. Most likely sick gains to be honest. Expect severe acne and to stink like shit all day about week 10 on. Atleast that was my experience.

[daem]

its still a heavy enuf cycle for a youngster to be using, you sound like your condoning it, thts my point. who am i? always me mate

I condone any decision made by someone that has calculated out the risk / reward scenarios for themself and acted accordingly.

Do I think he should? I can't answer that because I don't know the kid, his training history, his goals, or his habits.

On here we can only do the best with the information we are given, and in this case, it is inconclusive. Spouting off that he is a youngster doesn't mean anything if he has 3-4 cycles under his belt already.

I'll never knowingly enable someone under 21 to make a bad decision, but if they are set on doing something, they might as well be safe with good advice or judgment.

My agenda is for the best knowledge to be disseminated across the board as possible, regardless of age.

[dec11]

I condone any decision made by someone that has calculated out the risk / reward scenarios for themself and acted accordingly.

Do I think he should? I can't answer that because I don't know the kid, his training history, his goals, or his habits.

On here we can only do the best with the information we are given, and in this case, it is inconclusive. Spouting off that he is a youngster doesn't mean anything if he has 3-4 cycles under his belt already.

I'll never knowingly enable someone under 21 to make a bad decision, but if they are set on doing something, they might as well be safe with good advice or judgment.

My agenda is for the best knowledge to be disseminated across the board as possible, regardless of age.

fair enough, i still dont think its doing any harm to warn of the implications of using too young rather than giving the 'sure he's doing it anyway' matter of fact response

[c-Z]

Alright guys... Relax....

Theres nothing wrong with the cycle. Hes running test and drol with stananol at the end... its not like hes running test, deca , tren and dbol for 8 weeks. Hes running it proper. If he understands the risks.. then its on him.

We can only try to help those underage guys here... not much we can do for this guy.. and he cycled before... soo.. let him learn the hard way.

[Vullfromsc]

OP you seem to know alot about your "ROOM MATES" cycle dont you think

seems a bit fishy smellin to me JMHO

Peace

this is the definition of ignorant
what basis do you have to spew this bulls**t out of your mouth? i've been lifting with him for 4 years
he tells me everything, he's gone over the cycle with me many times..

[Vullfromsc]

yep,
has he been waking up with a boner every morning?

Im just guessing you know

i don't understand your joke here

maybe you should go post gay remarks in your own threads

[PC650]

thats cycle looks great actually, im on the same right now but yes he is too young. and no he wont die.

[stevey_6t9]

You can only try and persuade him and identify the possible risks with him cycling at such a young age. But at the end of the day he is an adult, and can make his own decisions.

He is responsible for his own actions and must face the possible concequences in the future.

[Hard.On]

Alright man heres the thing.
I was 22 When I did my first cycle
Everyone kept telling me everything you are telling him.

I said f*ck it and did it anyways because I take short cuts. Its what I do.

He is the same way. You can sit here all day and pour out your heart regarding your love for your bff. Its not going to change anything.

I know guys like him that did heavy cycles at young ages and they were using viagra when they were 23.

Its nice that your looking out for your bff but its not going to change anything. If you want to help him, cook his meals for him and wipe his @ss when he gets to big to do it himself.

Peace

[Chimera44]

WOW I mis read what he was taking lmao! The first time I thought it said 500 mg dbol and the stan was weeks 1-13. That was totaly my bad, on the second look the cycle really isnt that bad.

[elpropiotorvic]

WTF ppl don't try to be ppl mother's ... It is not up to you... Educate the one that wants to learn but if ur thinking ppl will die out of doing this cycle at 20 but not at 40 maybe u should all go back to reading.

Like nark always said "I'm tired of blanket statements" .

Yes the guy is young and yes he prob can tweak the diet and the workouts and what not but man the cycle is fine IT EVEN HAS PCT in it... I think the guy has read a lil at least and if he hasn't then seriously that's his problem, worst case scenario his life changes due to hormonal disruption. (but it's not ur life) live and let live man...

Who are all of you to say he shouldn't be on juice... His stats are better than mine for all I know.... I mean I understand the concern but to me there's a lot of ppl that parrot write whatever they see everybody writing....

Btw no disrespect to anybody but honestly man .... Let the guy live his life...Everybody does it to get somewhere quicker

[nails4me2]

WTF ppl don't try to be ppl mother's ... It is not up to you... Educate the one that wants to learn but if ur thinking ppl will die out of doing this cycle at 20 but not at 40 maybe u should all go back to reading.

Like nark always said "I'm tired of blanket statements" .

Yes the guy is young and yes he prob can tweak the diet and the workouts and what not but man the cycle is fine IT EVEN HAS PCT in it... I think the guy has read a lil at least and if he hasn't then seriously that's his problem, worst case scenario his life changes due to hormonal disruption. (but it's not ur life) live and let live man...

Who are all of you to say he shouldn't be on juice... His stats are better than mine for all I know.... I mean I understand the concern but to me there's a lot of ppl that parrot write whatever they see everybody writing....

Btw no disrespect to anybody but honestly man .... Let the guy live his life...Everybody does it to get somewhere quicker

i agree..and like a few people said the cycle is actually good so either he did his research which means while he was doing so i am sure he came across the risks involved with it and is already pretty aware of what he is doing or he just took a shot in the dark with the cycle selection and got lucky..which i doubt..but either way good luck to him and to the op i am curious if you yourself have ever cycled?? you said that you lift with him everyday correct?? and how old are you?

[gymnerd]

Hes young but thats a good cycle. If he refuses to stop(which he will) tell him to run start the winni 5wks before PCT and run it till 24hrs before pct starts that would be better than what hes doing.

Just trying to help here.

[BadNewsBerto]

how is this thread still in the top 5 lol....

i guess i just exasperated it, but hey....WTF!

[RuhlFreak55]

HE IS GOING TO F**KING DIE

wow, you must be retarded.....for one how in hell is it YOUR business what your roomate is doing? He's informed himself, probably has goals in mind....leave him alone.

I started at 20, whoopty ****ing doo....and i wouldn't change it looking back now either.

[stevey_6t9]

^^ lol

[glennyo1981]

wow, you must be retarded.....for one how in hell is it YOUR business what your roomate is doing? He's informed himself, probably has goals in mind....leave him alone.

I started at 20, whoopty ****ing doo....and i wouldn't change it looking back now either.

agree

[darkcrayz]

Op is a bit melodramatic.

for a 20year old his roommate has a well planned out cycle.

[AnonEagle]

Stanzanol? i take it you mean stanozolol ? as in winstrol

looks like a solid cycle, would make sense to make the stanozolol 13-15... but i dont see anything wrong with his cycle, im sure he knows the risks to him endocrine system

if hes your training partner i anticipate he should be blowing you out of the water

[Remoguy]

What I dont get is what is the differences if he shots off his natrual test now then later? He is proably planning on continuing AAS for life anyway. So why is 25 better off then 20??

[AnonEagle]

What I dont get is what is the differences if he shots off his natrual test now then later? He is proably planning on continuing AAS for life anyway. So why is 25 better off then 20??

well most people on here would say because his test levels are still developing until the age of 21ish... AFAIK 25 doesnt have any scientific reason just general maturity i think. also, elevated levels of estrogen can prematurely close one's growth plates which MAY still be open into one's 20s.