Deadly Propinate!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Injected21** · 02-25-2010, 06:30 PM

Just kidding but really... I have been taking Test prop at 150mg eod for 3 weeks. The injection pain is getting worse and lasting longer. I had to switch from glutes to quads and since i havent been able to walk. This is absolutely ridiculous i am worse off before i started this cycle because i literally have to walk with crutches. I am going to go to the grocery store and im going to pick up some grape seed oil. What is the best way to do this? i have a sterile empty vial and no i dont have a filter since i dont typically homebrew.

As always feedback is greatly appreciated

**Hard.On** · 02-25-2010, 06:32 PM

i cant pm you
why?

**Hard.On** · 02-25-2010, 06:39 PM

anyways
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**dec11** · 02-25-2010, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by twotimer

i cant pm you
why?

he needs more than 25 posts b4 pm'ing

**daem** · 02-25-2010, 07:03 PM

#1 - Scale down your volume to 75mg /ED and see if that helps you. When you start putting in a high concentration the chances for crystallization increase, which is the source of your pain. Either that or a high Benzyl Alcohol concentration that is helping to suspend the gear

#2 - You need to rotate more sites in. With the frequency of your injects, you are increasing your chances for an abcess if you are pinning the same areas each time. Do yourself a favor and add in delts + biceps to the mix so you are spreading the love so to speak.

#3 - Don't just use the store bought grapeseed oil to cut it as these oils have impurities that need to be filltered.

#4 - You can try to heat up the syringe under hot running water to thin out the oil and allow for greater dispersion in the muscle fascia

That's my best advice, good luck.

FWIW, I'm running 200mg Prop ED right now on my cycle...It can be done without pain.

**Injected21** · 02-25-2010, 07:10 PM

Appreciate it guys. My only concern is if i inject it into my quads and i cant walk for 4 days then whats that going to do to my bicep? I cant boil the store bought grapeseed oil then insert it into the sterilized vial?

**daem** · 02-25-2010, 07:16 PM

Boiling is not going to sterilize the oil bro...It needs to be filtered through a small-micron filter to ensure that particles or debris that you might not be able to see with the naked eye are removed.

I would try to buy some USP grade oil if I were you...It is cheap and prevalent online.

**Bullnutz** · 02-25-2010, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Injected21

Just kidding but really... I have been taking Test prop at 150mg eod for 3 weeks. The injection pain is getting worse and lasting longer. I had to switch from glutes to quads and since i havent been able to walk. This is absolutely ridiculous i am worse off before i started this cycle because i literally have to walk with crutches. I am going to go to the grocery store and im going to pick up some grape seed oil. What is the best way to do this? i have a sterile empty vial and no i dont have a filter since i dont typically homebrew.

As always feedback is greatly appreciated

What guage?Your ass is full of nerves.You cant just put a syringe anywhere.It has to go in dense tissue or it can seep out of muscle into sub cutinous area which causes your baseball effect.Glutes are best hit by someone who knows what they are doing rather than sitting on a counter looking in a mirror by yourself.IMO

**Injected21** · 02-25-2010, 07:23 PM

Actually i had a doctor show me where to inject. It was just the frequent injections that ****ed me up over time. Just asking is it typical when you inject 150mg of test prop into quads that you cant walk for 3 days or could something be wrong with the gear?

**Injected21** · 02-25-2010, 07:25 PM

or maybe should i use a hot compress on injection site before doing it?

**Bullnutz** · 02-25-2010, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by Injected21

Actually i had a doctor show me where to inject. It was just the frequent injections that ****ed me up over time. Just asking is it typical when you inject 150mg of test prop into quads that you cant walk for 3 days or could something be wrong with the gear?

My prop. hurts like hell in my legs too,but I only run 100mg.eod.Are you going high enough and in outer quad?

**Injected21** · 02-25-2010, 07:31 PM

yep. This was my first time injecting in my legs before so that might have something to do with it. Because before all i ever ran was enathate and had no problems

**flyspyder55** · 02-25-2010, 07:37 PM

prop just sucks... EO instead of GS oil and its like butter at 200mg/ml

**daem** · 02-25-2010, 07:41 PM

Bro - I gave you all the advice you need this time. Don't you see those 4 points?

**Mooseman33** · 02-26-2010, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by daem

#1 - Scale down your volume to 75mg /ED and see if that helps you. When you start putting in a high concentration the chances for crystallization increase, which is the source of your pain. Either that or a high Benzyl Alcohol concentration that is helping to suspend the gear

#2 - You need to rotate more sites in. With the frequency of your injects, you are increasing your chances for an abcess if you are pinning the same areas each time. Do yourself a favor and add in delts + biceps to the mix so you are spreading the love so to speak.

#3 - Don't just use the store bought grapeseed oil to cut it as these oils have impurities that need to be filltered.

#4 - You can try to heat up the syringe under hot running water to thin out the oil and allow for greater dispersion in the muscle fascia

That's my best advice, good luck.

FWIW, I'm running 200mg Prop ED right now on my cycle...It can be done without pain.

perfect advice brother...
OP- really look at number 2, not so much for pain but for scar tissue..

**ElviraJoy** · 02-27-2010, 04:58 AM

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2. SENTENCES/ACROSTICS. Like acronyms, you use the first letter of each word you are trying to remember.
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