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    Been shut down hard i belive

    Yeaa something is up i've done 5 cycles in last 4 years my last cycle was Sustanon 250 1cc and Boldenone 1cc each. 2cc in a syringe.

    Week 1 Sustanon 250 Monday and Thursday
    Week 2 Sustanon 250 Monday and Thursday
    Week 3 Sustanon 250 Monday and Thursday
    Week 4 Sustanon 250 Monday and Thursday
    Week 5 Sustanon 250 Monday and Thursday
    Week 6 Sustanon 250 Monday and Thursday
    Boldenone Monday and Thursday
    Week 7 Sustanon 250 Monday and Thursday
    Boldenone Monday and Thursday
    Week 8 Sustanon 250 Monday and Thursday
    Boldenone Monday and Thursday
    Week 9 Sustanon and Boldenone EOD
    Week 10 Sustanon and Boldenone EOD
    Week 11 Sustanon and Boldenone EOD
    Week 12 Sustanon and Boldenone EOD

    PCT was Weak and not long enough i belive

    Clomid 50/50/50
    Nolva 50/40/30

    3 weeks of PCT i have finished the cycle back in December i lost everything from this cycle hehe must have been shut down hard still having ED problems maintaining it up got some viagra on the side but shit any ideas what to do I started a PCT cycle again yesterday thinking of running it for 4-5 weeks this time not 3.. messed up


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    #1 - I think you should get blood work to confirm your suspicion. Based on what you said, it's definitely possibly you are still shut down.

    #2 - If you are shut down, using HCG may help speed your recovery. I'm not a fan of Clomid + Nolva for PCT...I have been where you are and lost a great deal of gains post-cycle until I started hitting HCG.

    Do some research on dosages and different PCT protocol that include it and be prepared to run it here to get you out of the rut.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by daem View Post
    #1 - I think you should get blood work to confirm your suspicion. Based on what you said, it's definitely possibly you are still shut down.

    #2 - If you are shut down, using HCG may help speed your recovery. I'm not a fan of Clomid + Nolva for PCT...I have been where you are and lost a great deal of gains post-cycle until I started hitting HCG.

    Do some research on dosages and different PCT protocol that include it and be prepared to run it here to get you out of the rut.

    Good luck!
    I agree you need to get bloodwork done to see what is happening.

    The cycle wasnt plan good neither was PCT, so you may have to run another pct but first bloodwork see what your levels are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I agree you need to get bloodwork done to see what is happening.

    The cycle wasnt plan good neither was PCT, so you may have to run another pct but first bloodwork see what your levels are?
    Who came up with and what is the logic of using SERMs for only 2 weeks as a PCT?

    It seams to be the most widely used course. I just do not see it being effective besides nolv to combat E2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharmDoc-Cyrus View Post
    Who came up with and what is the logic of using SERMs for only 2 weeks as a PCT?

    It seams to be the most widely used course. I just do not see it being effective besides nolv to combat E2.
    My PCT lasts around 5-6 weeks. This is the course of action I suggest. Although PCT should last as long as it takes endogenous T to be back to baseline values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharmDoc-Cyrus View Post
    Who came up with and what is the logic of using SERMs for only 2 weeks as a PCT?

    It seams to be the most widely used course. I just do not see it being effective besides nolv to combat E2.
    Ive always done well with a4 week PCT and I would say thats the average.

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    Well im guessing for now im just going to do one more pct cycle Clomid/Nolva and might add some HCG ?? And if that dont work ill go get some blood work done and post results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Ive always done well with a4 week PCT and I would say thats the average.
    4 Should be a min.

    I have not read on clinical that showed a SERM have a dramatic effect without usage of over a month. I seen clinicals that show improvements along the way, but I think 2 weeks is a dream unless one is very young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allover View Post
    Well im guessing for now im just going to do one more pct cycle Clomid/Nolva and might add some HCG?? And if that dont work ill go get some blood work done and post results.
    What exactly is your goal? Do you want full recovery? Make gains? Something to help until next cycle? How old are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allover View Post
    Well im guessing for now im just going to do one more pct cycle Clomid/Nolva and might add some HCG?? And if that dont work ill go get some blood work done and post results.
    Why not go get blood work before you use money on more drugs?

    Know how far gone you are before you waste time/money/compounds that might not be necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharmDoc-Cyrus View Post
    4 Should be a min.

    I have not read on clinical that showed a SERM have a dramatic effect without usage of over a month. I seen clinicals that show improvements along the way, but I think 2 weeks is a dream unless one is very young.
    I agree 2 wks is very poor,

    I don't usually go with anything ive read, i prefer doing what works by experimenting.

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    my goal is to get the natural test back to normal might be that i have to high Estrogen maybe thats why im having ED problems and lost all my gains??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allover View Post
    my goal is to get the natural test back to normal might be that i have to high Estrogen maybe thats why im having ED problems and lost all my gains??
    go to a doc tell him your worries and have blood-work done. im sure he will cure what ales you. an anti aging doc should be able to help.

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    nevermind edited

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    Get some blood work done like everyone else said. If you're going to run a PCT do atleast 4 weeks like everyone said, and run higher doses.

    Clomid 150/100/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/40/20

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