Trying to get lean instead of huge weird concept

[warcat35]

Hey fellas any advice on my cycle additions or take aways and maybe amounts per week and such. Not my first rodeo, but would like to hear any opinions.

My stats
Age 31, 6"4 250Lbs Body fat probably to close to 16%-20% but all in my mid section and chest.

I have plenty of
tren A
prop
var
was going to dose my liquids at 100mg

even got some liquid clen
would love growth just dont want to pay for it.

[soulstealer]

Diet...Diet...Diet...Diet...Diet... everything else is just help when getting lean...

[warcat35]

Yea I have been eating extremely clean and my body fat is peeling off I think i am honestly right about 14%but just feel like i am way to soft this year. Last time i tried to get shredded dropped to 220 was cut but felt to tiny for my height. damn work out bug has me all screwed up i get under 240 i start getting paranoid.

[laduem88]

all diet my friend...and cardio

[Hard.On]

honestly,
Its not his first rodeo like he said..
if he's 14% bf I would give him some advice

Also if its not your first rodeo you should have a better idea of what you want

[laduem88]

honestly,
Its not his first rodeo like he said..
if he's 14% bf I would give him some advice

Also if its not your first rodeo you should have a better idea of what you want

Diet and cardio...what more advice do you need, he should know that esp. since this isnt his "first rodeo"

[warcat35]

Ha easy fellas, I know its all about diet and cardio. I was just posting to see about any cycle info that i might not have thought of. Never did a cutting cycle. I played football until this year so being leanner was a byproduct from all the sprint work. but never had a need to be a skinny football player always did off season bulking to get as big as possible.

[laduem88]

Ha easy fellas, I know its all about diet and cardio. I was just posting to see about any cycle info that i might not have thought of. Never did a cutting cycle. I played football until this year so being leanner was a byproduct from all the sprint work. but never had a need to be a skinny football player always did off season bulking to get as big as possible.

yea well just look into different pre contest diets and what not, do low intensity cardio..and before you know it you will be shredded. you will find getting to 10% is the easy part..getting below 8% is whats tricky because thats when each % really counts

[Hard.On]

honestly,
You will get alot of people who will whine and tell you not to cycle and focus on diet etc.

By looking at your pic I would say do a good cut cycle.
Look at some tren/ anavar style cycles
You could lose bf% and increase lean muscle.

You want opinions, That is mine

[laduem88]

honestly,
You will get alot of people who will whine and tell you not to cycle and focus on diet etc.

By looking at your pic I would say do a good cut cycle.
Look at some tren/ anavar style cycles
You could lose bf% and increase lean muscle.

You want opinions, That is mine

lol i never said he shouldent cycle....hell id never do a cut without being on a cycle...i was just saying to get shredded you need to have a good cutting diet and have to do cardio and not to rely on compounds.

of course some compounds are better to cut with than others but that doesnt mean there going to get you shredded....thats all i was saying.

[RuhlFreak55]

ONLY purpose of gear for cutting is MAINTAINING (or gaining if you run insanity) muscle while depleted from dieting and lots of cardio.

[soulstealer]

ONLY purpose of gear for cutting is MAINTAINING (or gaining if you run insanity) muscle while depleted from dieting and lots of cardio.

Boom x2... will gear reduce your bodyfat levels slightly... YES... is it worth it if your diet and cardio isnt in check... NO.. I'm not saying dont cycle I'm just saying you need to be realistic about the outcome.. If you cant hit 6 or 7% without gear... what makes you think you can with it..?

[warcat35]

Thanks for the advice i think i got exactly what i need for maintaing the mass while cutting fat. Just finished all my diet plans and shopping today, damn there goes all the shit I like to eat.

[laduem88]

Thanks for the advice i think i got exactly what i need for maintaing the mass while cutting fat. Just finished all my diet plans and shopping today, damn there goes all the shit I like to eat.

if it were easy, everyone would be shredded year round