New Cycle thoughts?!! sus - test e - winnie

[jgreydan]

turning 30 in march. been working out since i was 19. ive hit a plateau over the past couple of years and i want to push it a little further. Ive always been natural.

my diet has always been pretty clean. lot of organics, complex carbs, high protein. i do drink too much alcohol though. i am looking to cut that.

5 foot 11
181
bf= 11.5 (damn lower abs)

i am looking to put on a little more size and really get down to about 7 percent bf.

trying to avoid any kind of gyno and baldness if possible. so the plan is an 8 week cycle

Sustanon (4 weeks), Test enanthate (4 weeks), Winstrol


thoughts and suggestions as i am very new to this and not 100 percent sold. i can post some pictures as well. but thats me in the avatar

[jgreydan]

ps i did some clen . 2 weeks on 2 weeks off once or twice. i like the stuff

[SlimJoe]

i would start of with just a plain test cycle run test cyp for 12 weeks maybe ? i think 8 would be to short first time test

[jgreydan]

why too short?

[lexruger]

just out of curiosity why would you want to run it only 8 weeks? Dont cut your self short especially one your first cycle...you'll have great gains as long as diet and training are in check

[c-Z]

Sust for four weeks. Then test E for four weeks?

Wtf? If your trying to take advantage of the short esters in sust. then do a full blown sust cycle. And EOD pinning personally.

First cycle. Here:
Test beginner cycle info

8 weeks is not long enough for a long ester cycle. 10 weeks min personally i like 12.

best way to get down to 7% BF is a clean diet and cardio.

[panntastic]

Like the man c-z said don't be changing up sust to singel esterd test half way through just pick 1 and roll with and there was no mention of pct how's that looking if you have it in place?