Interesting post on hcg

[mg1228]

I think he WAS saying it was the first time he used hcg.

from what I gather MG only from reading I personally havent used yet due to all the conflicting info i read what your doing is the more traditional way of using hcg Last few weeks of cycle

peace

thanks--think i will continue

[Musa]

I was doing some research and came across this post on another board..

"I did several cycles before, all the same level of test, one with Nolva only and a few with Nolva and Clomid. I always bounced back within a few months, and had the bloodwork to prove it.

On my last cycle about a year and a half ago I decided to try HCG using SWALES protocol of a bit throughout the cycle instead of all at the end.

Long story short, it's 1.5 years later and my balls are fine, but my pituitary isn't making enough LH and FSH to tell them to produce enough testosterone. So I have secondary hypogonadism at the age of 33 and it seems to be irriversible.

I tried ZMA, Tribulus, lots of full body workouts... I just can't bounce back from this and blood test after blood test all say the same thing > Low FSH, low LH, low free test and low syrum test.

It's just something to think about. I know lots of people swear by HCG, but I wish I would have just kept it simple and stuck with Nolva as-needed and let my body do the work of returning to homeostasis."


something to consider

Like i posted above , i have the same EXACT problem and i went to the doc for the same thing.....I am trying to find out any info on it .......i will post as soon as i get more info.....i will get hold of one of the GOOD ENDOCR. in the US and Europe.....i got hold of some internal info ( within insurance companies)........so i would appreciate any good info on recovery after being shutdown , mainly secondary hypogonadism....so i can post for everybody....i am also trying to get some info from the Endocrinology Section at the University

[FranciscoG]

The thread in at meso for anyone wanting to read it in full.

He states he used Swales protocal and ran 250IU twice a week. He does not state if he did this for 6 months or 16 months, but a time limit is not part of that protocal so it would not be mentioned.

[bjohnson1968]

so anyone have any input to how a 42 yr old who wants to incorporate ( or thinks he needs to incorpaorate) HCG into his cycle due to testicalur shrinkage should go about it.


Peace

[Too Little Muscles]

so anyone have any input to how a 42 yr old who wants to incorporate ( or thinks he needs to incorpaorate) HCG into his cycle due to testicalur shrinkage should go about it.


Peace

HCG only mimics the hormones that the pituitary gland puts out. Once you stop taking it the testes stops producing again. Clomid does stimulate the pituitary gland a little but it dosen't last. The way the pituitary gland starts producing FSH & LH again is that is receives a hormone from the hypothalamus which is a gland right next to the pituitary. From what I have read, there is only one thing that causes the hypothalamus to release this hormone. It's, it's the smell of female urine! Can you believe that? It's almost like we are not much different than dogs.

[bjohnson1968]

now we have the answer just let a bitch piss in your face LOL

[mg1228]

i wonder if u can get bitch piss at ar-r, lol

[ph34rsh4ck]

So should i still use hcg in my pct??

[bjohnson1968]

i wonder if u can get bitch piss at ar-r, lol

LMAO!!!
Thats funny