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**The Specialist** · 02-28-2010, 10:12 AM

So, it is looking like this.

Weeks
1-12 250mg Test E twice a week.
3-14 Armidex .25 EOD
9-14 Winni 30mg's twice a day
Pct
14-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20
14-18 Clomid 20/20/20/20

Are the weeks for the Armidex correct? Also what about HCG ? Some say it's stupid not to incorporate. If I incorporate it do I start at week 1-12, or 3-14, all the way through pct?

I really do not want to gain a ton of size to quickly. The last thing I want is for people to think I am on steroids . I am looking for good quality lean muscle gains while cutting my BF from about 12-9. Is the 500mgs a week of test ok for this or would I be better off going with a smaller dose. I hear a lot of controversy over 250-500mgs a week.

Thank you

**c-Z** · 02-28-2010, 10:15 AM

Why are you starting your armidex 3 weeks in?

250mgs a week is practically a trt dose. so if you want to shut yourself down for a dose someone who has actual low testosterone . Then so be it. There should be no controversy on this. Not if test is your whole cycle. Now some choose to run lower levels of test because of the sides they have at 500mgs. Face it we all react differently. But I assure you they are most likely running something else with it. Not just test.

What are your stats?

**The Specialist** · 02-28-2010, 10:20 AM

oh and before I get 20 lame responses like almost every other person asking this type of question.

I already know that diet will play a huge role in dictating what my gains are. Please stay on topic.

**The Specialist** · 02-28-2010, 05:34 PM

age-32
5, 7
183lbs
12-13% BF

I wasn't sure if I needed to start the armidex right off the bat? The test doesn't start rolling until week 2 from what I read so I thought I wouldn't need the armidex till then?

What about the hcg ?

I'll stick with the 500mg's a week.

**The Specialist** · 03-01-2010, 08:25 AM

bump

***D7M*** · 03-01-2010, 10:02 AM

imo, HCG is not a necessity with a simple test cycle, though it is certainly beneficial.

I would increase your clomid dose to at least 50mg/ED during pct.

Is this your first cycle?