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    the night before first injection

    Ok everyone…today is the last day before I enter the dark side.
    I will be starting my first cycle tomorrow morning, march 1st 6am!!
    Needless to say im like a nervous fu*K!!

    I know it sounds childish. I do not have any fear of needles or injections, but im just nervous about doing it wrong, hitting a vain, nerve or slight movement while the needle is inside.
    Im fully prepared, I have seen countless videos on the net, read a shit load of instructions on many different forums.

    I have everything, this is my cycle:
    Week 1-9 test e 300mg
    Week 9-12 winny tabs 40mgs ed
    Week 12-15 nolvadex 20/10/10/10

    My stats as of today
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    168 lbs
    10-11 %bf
    5’10”

    Its just time to grow balls and do it!!

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    why are you only running it for 9 weeks.

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    dude Ill be starting very soon and Im the same way. Needles and pain arent worrying me its just the doing something wrong part is what worries me haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpennnn View Post
    why are you only running it for 9 weeks.
    i know its recommended bet 10-12 weeks...ill have more gear if i decide to run longer, just want to see how i respond to 9 weeks. if all goes well and decide to up the lenght of time then ill adjust the timing of the other compounds.
    i also have this type of reasoning...

    longer time on test=longer shutdown of hpta.

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    u should run the test for 12 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by primoplex300 View Post
    u should run the test for 12 weeks
    ok,ok i know...lets take it a week at a time. like i said i deff have enough. i just want to see how it goes
    Last edited by number28; 02-28-2010 at 11:05 PM.

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    Don't try your first shot in the morning if you have to go to work. Some guys faint during their first injection...which could make you late for work. lol.
    Other than that, good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Don't try your first shot in the morning if you have to go to work. Some guys faint during their first injection...which could make you late for work. lol.
    Other than that, good luck!
    wholy shit, my wife just said the samething...plus i own the business so that helps..my only concern is that i get everything done intime to take the kids to school..:0

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    good luck man! have a good cycle! don't be nervous, just listen to your body, take vitamins and liv.52.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Don't try your first shot in the morning if you have to go to work. Some guys faint during their first injection...which could make you late for work. lol.
    Other than that, good luck!
    Im sure that will really calm his nerves haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by peachfuzz View Post
    Im sure that will really calm his nerves haha
    Haha too funny...thx

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    good luck on ur first cycle bro...it should be a great learning experience.

    but i think 9 weeks at 300mg of test might not be enough....but who know's u might respond well to it.

    all the best!

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    You will be fine! Hitting a vein is very rare...Just dont syke your self out. Go in there and stick it...when the pin is in you will wounder why you lost sleep over it...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG_GUNS_21 View Post
    You will be fine! Hitting a vein is very rare...Just dont syke your self out. Go in there and stick it...when the pin is in you will wounder why you lost sleep over it...lol
    wow..thats the best word i can use to describe my first injection this morning.
    i dont know why i was so nervous. hardly slept at all last night and when i actually did sleep i had wicked dreams..
    anyway, i used 19g pin to draw and 27g to inject..
    my only mistake was that i didnt allow enough time for the alcohol to dry on my quad so i felt alittle sting..
    the 27g took forever to actually inject as its so fine (actually a good thing).
    anyway, looking back i see how easy it was and find it amusing at how much of a ***** i was...lol

    Thanks bros for words of encouragement! !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by number28 View Post

    I have everything, this is my cycle:
    Week 1-9 test e 300mg
    Week 9-12 winny tabs 40mgs ed
    Week 12-15 nolvadex 20/10/10/10

    My stats as of today
    31
    168 lbs
    10-11 %bf
    5’10”

    Its just time to grow balls and do it!!
    Hmm how long is your training experience? For that weight I really think you could of put some natural gain on first, with the right diet of course.

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    it's obvious his diet is lacking, and will not have good results off of this cycle, but people don't learn, they think gear is the magical pill, just loves to see the post-cycle saying " Did my cycle fail "?

    also hitting a vein isn't the end of the world, you just aspirate and if you see blood you just take it out and re-inject somewhere else, I even decided one day to take out 2ML of blood just for fun, stuff you do when your bored........

    and when you hit a nerve you'll know it, and you'll just remove it, and go somewhere else, if the needle dosen't slice through after puncturing the skin, then your probably hitting a nerve or a vein. (you get use to it which is why I hate injecting quads because I inject 6-8 times before I can get a good spot).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Don't try your first shot in the morning if you have to go to work. Some guys faint during their first injection...which could make you late for work. lol.
    Other than that, good luck!
    I feel a little better now. I felt like such a puss when I got light headed from my first pin this morning.

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    I would run the cycle to for 12 weeks and at 400mgs of test IMHO.

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    ^^^^^agreed. The 12 week isn't only for longer esters against the hpta. Its also to help the body get used to the amount of extra muscle that you have put on. If you get off too soon after gaining all that mass, your body won't know how to handle it and can easily lose the gains in strength and size.

    Good luck,

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    yeah 27 gague is a lil small bro. i wouldnt go under 25 and only use 5/8" or less for your sholders or subcon. 23gauge 1 inch quads and 22 or 23 1.5inch for ass. prob is if you use to small and it takes 30+ seconds to inject you tend to fumble the pin around to much makeing for a sore recovery. good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by "DIRTY D" SANCHEZ View Post
    ^^^^^agreed. The 12 week isn't only for longer esters against the hpta. Its also to help the body get used to the amount of extra muscle that you have put on. If you get off too soon after gaining all that mass, your body won't know how to handle it and can easily lose the gains in strength and size.

    Good luck,

    "dirty d"
    Thanks dirty d and Marcus, makes total sense. I was just hesitant about going too long as I wanted to avoid sides, but I might reconsider as you say it would help keep gains...everyone just says that the cycle is too short but don't gave any reasons why ..thanks for the quick explanation.

    Like I said I definitely have enough for a longer cycle..will just take it one week at a time.
    Good looks

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    Quote Originally Posted by number28 View Post
    i know its recommended bet 10-12 weeks...ill have more gear if i decide to run longer, just want to see how i respond to 9 weeks. if all goes well and decide to up the lenght of time then ill adjust the timing of the other compounds.
    i also have this type of reasoning...

    longer time on test=longer shutdown of hpta.
    2wks will shut you down

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanYouDigIt View Post
    it's obvious his diet is lacking, and will not have good results off of this cycle, but people don't learn, they think gear is the magical pill, just loves to see the post-cycle saying " Did my cycle fail "?

    also hitting a vein isn't the end of the world, you just aspirate and if you see blood you just take it out and re-inject somewhere else, I even decided one day to take out 2ML of blood just for fun, stuff you do when your bored........and when you hit a nerve you'll know it, and you'll just remove it, and go somewhere else, if the needle dosen't slice through after puncturing the skin, then your probably hitting a nerve or a vein. (you get use to it which is why I hate injecting quads because I inject 6-8 times before I can get a good spot).
    strange

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    300mg at 9 weeks?? You'll probably only gain 5 pounds. Try at least 500mg at 12 weeks and stop wasting time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I would run the cycle to for 12 weeks and at 400mgs of test IMHO.
    Quick question, I only have 1-10ml vial of the ugl test e that I already started this morning but have 2 boxes of Iranian hg test e amps...would it be a problem continuing to the amps once I'm done with the ugl vial?

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    Ha yeah..... id say youre pretty brave to go for the quad for the first time. The ass is alot easier - less sensitive and if you got a big butt, you dont have to worry about hitting a nerve haha. Everyone is getting on you about your cycle..... my first concern was if you were doing it properly. Just make sure youre being safe..... kind of hard to mess up in general. I dont really see the big deal about switching pins to draw and shoot.... i just man up and use the same.

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    Ok I get the picture, 8weeks@300=too little. Changing to 10 weeks @ 400 per week.

    [QUOTE=marcus300;5090209]I would run the cycle to for 12 weeks and at 400mgs of test.

    I only have 1-10ml vial of the ugl test e that I already started this week but have 2 boxes of Iranian hg test e amps...would it be a problem continuing to the amps once I'm done with the ugl vial?

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    Ok I get the picture, now changing cycle to 10weeks@400mgs per week.
    Quick question, I only have 1-10ml vial of the ugl test e that I already started, but have 2 boxes of Iranian hg test e amps...would it be a problem continuing to the amps once I'm done with the ugl vial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by number28 View Post
    Ok I get the picture, now changing cycle to 10weeks@400mgs per week.
    Quick question, I only have 1-10ml vial of the ugl test e that I already started, but have 2 boxes of Iranian hg test e amps...would it be a problem continuing to the amps once I'm done with the ugl vial?
    No issue with that whatsoever.

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    cool thanks, now ill have no excuse not to do 400mg for 10 weeks..

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    10 weeks @400 a week i gained 30 pounds u will b fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by $parky View Post
    10 weeks @400 a week i gained 30 pounds u will b fine
    And I'll bet it was ALL muscle

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