Ok so I posted a thread here a couple days ago and I guess I wasn't specific enough. I want to bulk and from the research I have done maybe not doing HGH is the best thing, but I only want to do a cycle or two and not go all out crazy. To some people this might sound scary because it is hard to stop and all that crazy stuff, but if I know it is wrong and that i shouldn't over do it, I can have complete control over my mind and body and stop whatever it is.. speaking from experience. That being said I would like to try Dbol, and also I guess Test being that your'e supposed to take it with any cycle. This is where it loses me, on all the stuff that I have been looking into there is different names, like it says "test.WHATEVERNAME" and there are like 5 different kinds, so I want to know what kind of test specifically that you guys would recommend. Also I am not sure on the mg for both and what do you guys suggest my 8 week cycle be on when using Dbol and the Test, considering this is my first cycle. Like I said before I am 22 175 and no I am not too young, I am big and the Doc says i am fully internally. So with that please let me know. Thanks