oil pulmonary embolisum

[oldman103]

Hello, Im new to the forum hope this question is in the right place. after giving myself a IM injection oil based I became dizzy felt a strong pain in my chest. Within 10 seconds my chest felt like it was constricted and I could not even take the smallest breath, as I was about to lose consciousness my chest relaxed a little and I was able to start breathing again slowly in between coughs. I am sure it was an oil pulmonary embolisum caused by some oil running back through the needle hole and into a vein.(I always asperate before pushing the plunger down)I am now fine. My GP thinks it was probably what I diagnosed. My question is if it happened again what could I do to help clear the blockage would an epipen help? As this is a very scarey and life threatening acurrance I would really like some advice. Thank you very much.

[D7M]

this will happen to most people who inject themselves enough times over a long enough period.

Don't use an epipen, man.

Your best bet is preventative: be sure to aspirate before every injection.

[oldman103]

I do aspirate every time, I am always very careful this is why I was shocked when it happened. Is there any meds I could use to help the blockage on its way if it ever happens again? I have not used since this accurrance but I want to start a course, but need something in place just in case. Thanks

[Schmidty]

aspirating might not always work i mean u could move it a lil bit and land in a vein

[oldman103]

I guess so. Has anyone else had this befor? Thanks for the help.

[wormwood]

aspirating might not always work i mean u could move it a lil bit and land in a vein

Right. I know when I pin that it's impossible for me to keep the needle at the exact same depth especially as it takes me about 15 seconds to push all the oil in.

[scorgasm]

where did u inject?

[oldman103]

HI I injected in the hip. I find the glute to hard to reach with both hands and hard to see if Iv drawn blood. Think I might have to use the thigh next time, if I can get up enough courage. Ha ha

[bjohnson1968]

why do you shy away from the quad ? I find it no more painful than any other site

Peace

[oldman103]

Hi bjohnson, I dont mean im scared of using the quad. I am now worried about injecting anywhere after what happened it scared my (BIG TIME) Thanks for the info.

[bjohnson1968]

I got ya prolly scare the F*** out of me too

[dharts]

are you sure you just didnt experience a bit of aniexty. i mean serious this is one of the first times iv heard of this

[dharts]

Article
Acute pulmonary oil embolism and lethal dose study of an oily contrast medium following portal vein administration into dogs
Yeu-Tsu N. Lee, M.D. *, William L. Donegan, M.D.
Department of Surgery, Ellis Fischel State Cancer Hospital, and the Cancer Research Center Columbia, Missouri
*Correspondence to Yeu-Tsu N. Lee, Cancer Research Center, Business Loop 70 and Garth Avenue, Columbia, Missouri 65201

Funded by:
U.S. Public Health Service; Grant Number: FR-05618

ABSTRACT
In the search for a simple, objective, reliable and sequential diagnostic hepatography, an oily contrast medium, Ethiodol {ethiodized oil), was purposely injected into the portal vein system of dogs. In the absence of a porto-systemic shunt, the smallest amount of Ethiodol which produced faint roentgenographic visualization of pulmonary oil embolization was about 2.50 ml/kg. The average trapping capacity of the livers of six dogs was 2.89 ml/kg. The average acute lethal dose was 5.10 ml/kg. It was not possible to extrapolate the lethal dose of intraportal Ethiodol in humans. Also, the consideration of a threshold dose level (corresponding to the trapping capacity of the liver), near or above which the problem of pulmonary oil embolism will become significant, is only a rough concept. However, the results of this study serve to emphasize that the potential hazards of using intraportal oil contrast media for clinical purposes should be kept in mind.

[dharts]

i dont know if this helps you bro but i read the article. could of been what you thought could be anxiety. thanks my friend

[oldman103]

HI guys, I dont think it was anxiety as i could taste and smell the gear I must of nicked a vein. I have been injecting for a good few years and never before had a problem. Thanks again for all the help. KEEP IT TIGHT.

[redwings91]

I've heard of people getting a slight cough after inject but this seems scary as hell. Who else has this happened to?