anavar as a kickstart?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I was shocked to find nothing in the search about this. Anyone think var as a kickstart is a good idea? Or is it mostly run at the end of cycles leading up to pct? I ask because I have some on hand and want to use a kickstart for a test-e/deca cycle. Would I be better off getting my hands on something like tbol instead if I want the size/strength increase without the bloat?

[Spartans09]

It's great as a kickstart. Strength, vascularity, hardening pretty quickly. What dose are you considering?

[laduem88]

personally i would either run it towards the end of throughout the entire cycle depending how long your cycle is.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

It's great as a kickstart. Strength, vascularity, hardening pretty quickly. What dose are you considering?

I got some from a lab that is supposedly 4x more powerful than regular oxandrolone. With that having been said, I think I will go with 50 or 60mg the first 5 weeks. What do you think? How long does it take var to kick in?

personally i would either run it towards the end of throughout the entire cycle depending how long your cycle is.

cycle is deca 12 weeks and test-e 14 weeks. My original plan was the run at the end but now I am kind of wanting to do it right away since it takes so long to see results from test-e and deca. What is the benefit of running it at the end as opposed to the beginning?

[Spartans09]

You'll notice strength pretty quick(maybe 5-7 days). Then vascularity shortly after that if your At least somewhat lean. I've kickstarted and backloaded with it in the same cycle. 4 weeks in the beginning and 4 weeks just before last couple of injections up untill esters clear and start of pct. I love var! 50-60 mgs should be fine.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

You'll notice strength pretty quick(maybe 5-7 days). Then vascularity shortly after that if your At least somewhat lean. I've kickstarted and backloaded with it in the same cycle. 4 weeks in the beginning and 4 weeks just before last couple of injections up untill esters clear and start of pct. I love var! 50-60 mgs should be fine.

sounds good. I have enough var to do it at the beginning and at the end, I just havent decided if I want to do that. Will I see some size increase as well? This cycle is a bulk cycle and I am already very lean. My abs look great when I flex them

[Spartans09]

Deca and test should pack some nice size on you if you eat, train and rest properly.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Deca and test should pack some nice size on you if you eat, train and rest properly.

Which I will definitely do. Do you think I would be better off ordering some tbol instead?

[Spartans09]

Never used it. They have some similarities and is less expensive. I am considering trying it but really like anavar.

[gymnerd]

Var kicks in pretty quick, 2wks it will be at full strength for sure thats a nice cycle var and dbol give similar strength gains dbol gives better muscle gains but you will stay dryer with var.

[gymnerd]

I got some from a lab that is supposedly 4x more powerful than regular oxandrolone. With that having been said, I think I will go with 50 or 60mg the first 5 weeks. What do you think? How long does it take var to kick in?



cycle is deca 12 weeks and test-e 14 weeks. My original plan was the run at the end but now I am kind of wanting to do it right away since it takes so long to see results from test-e and deca. What is the benefit of running it at the end as opposed to the beginning?

That kind of throws up red flags for me because it either contains the hormone in the correct amounts or it doesnt. Trust me if it had 4 times the hormone in it they would sell it that way I call BS there,.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Var kicks in pretty quick, 2wks it will be at full strength for sure thats a nice cycle var and dbol give similar strength gains dbol gives better muscle gains but you will stay dryer with var.

I think I might go for it then. Does it kick in as fast as dbol, tbol, and anadrol as well? I might run it first 4 weeks, then MAYBE the last 4 weeks before pct as well depending on how the cycle goes and then I will decide then

That kind of throws up red flags for me because it either contains the hormone in the correct amounts or it doesnt. Trust me if it had 4 times the hormone in it they would sell it that way I call BS there,.

I know it's not actually 4x as good but I do know for a fact it is legit. It's just a slightly more potent version. I have verified this with others

[gymnerd]

I think I might go for it then. Does it kick in as fast as dbol, tbol, and anadrol as well? I might run it first 4 weeks, then MAYBE the last 4 weeks before pct as well depending on how the cycle goes and then I will decide then



I know it's not actually 4x as good but I do know for a fact it is legit. It's just a slightly more potent version. I have verified this with others

It wont kick in as fast as drol thats around 3-4days for me because its so strong but like I say var will be going strong at 2wks just dont expect a bunch of mass gains from it,

Dbol and anadrol will give much more dramatic gains than var/

[AlphaMaleDawg]

It wont kick in as fast as drol thats around 3-4days for me because its so strong but like I say var will be going strong at 2wks just dont expect a bunch of mass gains from it,

Dbol and anadrol will give much more dramatic gains than var/

I think I am leaning towards just doing it at the end then. Doesn't seem like a good enough kickstart for me

[gymnerd]

I think I am leaning towards just doing it at the end then. Doesn't seem like a good enough kickstart for me

Bro, if you have the funds do a dbol kick start take a month off from orals then do a var finisher and thank me later LOL.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Bro, if you have the funds do a dbol kick start take a month off from orals then do a var finisher and thank me later LOL.

wow I just read this post and I actually ordered dbol just yesterday. I read your mind apparently! I was gonna do 30 or 40mg dbol first four weeks and then MAYBE anavar 10 weeks later leading up to pct for another four weeks. Not too many orals do you think? I have so much anavar laying around, I might as well use it. cycle would be...

week 1-4 DBol 40mg
week 1-12 deca 400mg
week 1-14 test-e 625mg
week 13-16 anavar 50mg
week 17-20 nolva and clomid

adex .25mg EOD and caber .25mg every 3 days

look good to you?

[workoutfreak078]

I know where you got your Var from and it is definitely legit. Very good stuff. The reason they say it is 4x more potent is because doses usually come in 2.5mg (for prescription purposes). Multiply that by four and you get 10mg pills. It doesn't mean it is more potent, but the stuff is definitely overdosed.

I am kickstarting my cycle with Tbol right now, I am on day 11 and my strength is going up, I feel pumped as hell, and getting a lot more vascular. I am ending the cycle with Var because I like it a lot better at the end of a cycle. I think it's more useful there then as a kickstart.

To answer your question in your original post, if you want to kickstart to add size and strength without the bloat, then definitely use Tbol, without question.

Just thought I'd throw in my two cents.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I know where you got your Var from and it is definitely legit. Very good stuff. The reason they say it is 4x more potent is because doses usually come in 2.5mg (for prescription purposes). Multiply that by four and you get 10mg pills. It doesn't mean it is more potent, but the stuff is definitely overdosed.

I am kickstarting my cycle with Tbol right now, I am on day 11 and my strength is going up, I feel pumped as hell, and getting a lot more vascular. I am ending the cycle with Var because I like it a lot better at the end of a cycle. I think it's more useful there then as a kickstart.

To answer your question in your original post, if you want to kickstart to add size and strength without the bloat, then definitely use Tbol, without question.

Just thought I'd throw in my two cents.

thanks bro I'm glad someone knows the exact type I have! (the very very tiny purple tabs) Since you have used them, what dose do you think I should go with? They say each tab is 10mg but I know they are overdosed, like you said. I will run it at the end for four weeks since that would give me a 10 week break from when I finish dbol. I want it to help me continue to gain muscle/strength while hardening me up

[laduem88]

why dont you up the dose a little for the var?

[workoutfreak078]

thanks bro I'm glad someone knows the exact type I have! (the very very tiny purple tabs) Since you have used them, what dose do you think I should go with? They say each tab is 10mg but I know they are overdosed, like you said. I will run it at the end for four weeks since that would give me a 10 week break from when I finish dbol. I want it to help me continue to gain muscle/strength while hardening me up

60mg ED should be more than enough. That would be a great dose to end your cycle with. It will definitely give you the results you want if it is followed by a proper diet, which I am sure it is.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

^yea I think I will take your advice since you have run that exact same type I have and do 60mg to finish it off. 4 weeks seem good to you? I would start right after being off deca and stop the day before pct. And yea my diet will be as perfect as I can have it since I am one of those guys that is very anal about counting every little macro and calorie. I gotta keep it sexy, right? (no homo)

[Hard.On]

lol,
I read you post this on another forum not too long ago.
Its funny cause you keep getting different advice.

I would take the advice you get here. That other forum is full of bad advisors.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

lol,
I read you post this on another forum not too long ago.
Its funny cause you keep getting different advice.

I would take the advice you get here. That other forum is full of bad advisors.

hah yea sometimes I will post the same thing on another forum for the sake of differing opinions. I trust the people on this site much more though. The other site was all like, "no way man! stupid idea to kickstart with var!"

btw your avatar scares the sh!t out of me!

[workoutfreak078]

^yea I think I will take your advice since you have run that exact same type I have and do 60mg to finish it off. 4 weeks seem good to you? I would start right after being off deca and stop the day before pct. And yea my diet will be as perfect as I can have it since I am one of those guys that is very anal about counting every little macro and calorie. I gotta keep it sexy, right? (no homo)

If I am doing a 16 week cycle (which I usually do, those are my favorite) I usually end with Var for the last 8 weeks of my cycle. 4 weeks will definitely work though, I just prefer 8.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

If I am doing a 16 week cycle (which I usually do, those are my favorite) I usually end with Var for the last 8 weeks of my cycle. 4 weeks will definitely work though, I just prefer 8.

yea I would do longer but with the dbol going on the first 4 weeks, I don't think any longer than 5 weeks would be good if i added var. I am going to add it based on how the cycle is going at the time

btw, do you prefer dbol at 30mg for 5 weeks or dbol at 40mg for 4 weeks?

[workoutfreak078]

yea I would do longer but with the dbol going on the first 4 weeks, I don't think any longer than 5 weeks would be good if i added var. I am going to add it based on how the cycle is going at the time

btw, do you prefer dbol at 30mg for 5 weeks or dbol at 40mg for 4 weeks?

30mg for 5 weeks would be ideal, especially if it is your first time taking Dbol. You'll gain nice off of that.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

30mg for 5 weeks would be ideal, especially if it is your first time taking Dbol. You'll gain nice off of that.

thanks maybe I'll go with that. Anyone else have an opinion on this?

[gymnerd]

I think you will really like the cycle and no its not too much orals as long as you dont go out drinking and shit like that and drink plenty of water you know the bit.

[gymnerd]

30mg for 5 weeks would be ideal, especially if it is your first time taking Dbol. You'll gain nice off of that.

Yes, 30 mg of good legit dbol for your first time will be plenty 40 may give you some sides.