overwieght and looking for help

**cowboy2121** · 03-02-2010, 04:14 PM

Hey what's up guys and girls if ur reading this well my question is I'm 300 lbs sitting right around 29% bf and was wondering when I start my test and deca cycle if that will help eat away of some of that fat I have done a ton of research and hear diffrent things I hear its gona make me bigger and stronger but will the bf dissaper with that will love any feed back thank you

**juiceda26** · 03-02-2010, 04:20 PM

Your gonna catch alot of shit about dieting first.

**c-Z** · 03-02-2010, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by juiceda26

Your gonna catch alot of shit about dieting first.

AMEN.

DIET + CARDIO!

Jacks magic beans have been off the market a long time. The only thing you can do is hit the diet section. And get on a treadmill. Running anything at that bf% increases risks greatly! Nothing will eat away at the bf. Unless you want to slurp down a tapeworm.... Ive heard it works... LOL.. JP

**juiceda26** · 03-02-2010, 04:33 PM

You will see ten times the results if you diet right. Test wont do you any good at this point in time.

**slimy** · 03-02-2010, 04:34 PM

Here comes the shit.......

First off, welcome. You came to the right place. Getting people like you educated is what we do here.

Two things to start off with: 1. Fat and muscle are two very different things. You can't turn fat into muscle. You must lose the fat so the muscle underneath comes shining through. 2. Steroids build muscle, they do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to burn fat.

Now got that out of the way. Two biggest and most proven fat burners ever: diet and cardio. That is what you need right now. And ONLY what you need right now.

You have stumbled on to this forum, looking for advice on an ill conceived cycle. What you are going to get is world class information on diet. Head over to the 'diet' section and talk to those guys. They are the real geniuses on this board. This is information that should cost you a lot of money, and they do it for free on this site.

I'll let someone else talk about health risks of doing steroids at your body fat %. You will get several replies. We have several members here that have dropped over a hundred pounds each, with the advice given here.

You came for advice, I hope you stick around and take it. We will be here for you anytime.

Good luck, man.

**cowboy2121** · 03-02-2010, 04:37 PM

Yea I run/walk a nile everyday and I have a really good diet I used to weigh 475 and cut out junk food and fast food my legs are solid and my arm are also its pretty much just my mid section I'm also 6'3my doc said I'm the heathly person he has ever seen just over wieght

**tylerrrman** · 03-02-2010, 04:38 PM

Yeah dude if you actually do start pinning, and mind you I WAS 30% BF TOO, your going to grow some serious breast tissue, have horrible mood swings, basically all those sides you hear about people getting, they WILL HAPPEN... and not just a little bit.

My best advice is this: Start a good 3,000 cal diet cuz at your size you will still lose a good amount of weight. Walk the treadmill for 45 a day at like 3.0-3.8 speed. No I don't mean 15 minutes at a time 3 times a day or something. That won't raise your heartrate for at least 30 min, just do the cardio, it sucks but we all get over it sometime.

Once you get the BF% down to like 15% you should look at juicing, but nothing more then that. Ideally you should be at like 12-15% unless your entering a strongman competition and your 7 feet tall, but I don't wana kill it for you too bad.

Honestly, after like 6 months you'll feel WAY better and be glad you waited to juice.

**c-Z** · 03-02-2010, 04:38 PM

Overweight people tend to have higher estrogen levels.

Blood pressure becomes a big issue as well.

**"DIRTY D" SANCHEZ** · 03-02-2010, 04:39 PM

^^^^^^fu*kin sweet advise slimy lol.

No doubt man, you are in the best place besides the gym, to learn how to lose fat, and build muscles. I applaud you for taking the plunge in getting your life back in order. I hope just like slimy does that you get to the diet section and let them help you. Again there are guys who have dropped almost 100lbs in just over a year give or take. So please stick with us and its gonna be the best choice you made this lifetime.

Good luck,

"dirty d"

**marcus300** · 03-02-2010, 04:46 PM

You got some good advice in here, i hope you listen to it, best of luck to you.

**cowboy2121** · 03-02-2010, 04:51 PM

Yes I am gona stick around fur sure that is the whole resone I join I did a lot of reading on here before I even thought about it so thank u guys for all the info

**marcus300** · 03-02-2010, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by cowboy2121

Yes I am gona stick around fur sure that is the whole resone I join I did a lot of reading on here before I even thought about it so thank u guys for all the info

Check out the diet section and look up Fireguy1, he is probably the best around here to help you with your diet,

**tylerrrman** · 03-02-2010, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Check out the diet section and look up Fireguy1, he is probably the best around here to help you with your diet,

...And is extremely strict about dieting before juice from what i've read from him. lol. I'm at like 15% possibly 2 or 3 percent higher, and after I read some of what he has to say I looked at my diet and decided against pinning for another like 6 mo. so I get optimal gains.

**slimy** · 03-02-2010, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by cowboy2121

Yea I run/walk a nile everyday and I have a really good diet I used to weigh 475 and cut out junk food and fast food my legs are solid and my arm are also its pretty much just my mid section I'm also 6'3my doc said I'm the heathly person he has ever seen just over wieght

Just an extra "way to go" man. You went from 475 down to 300 just by cutting junk food and walking a single mile a day. That's 175 pounds you have already lost. Wait till you hit it hard, son.

I am already impressed with you.

**cowboy2121** · 03-02-2010, 06:14 PM

Thanks man yea I was 475 playing football was all state and I'm proud of my self alredy

**tylerrrman** · 03-02-2010, 06:17 PM

Yeah man it's guys like you that make me feel weak, not jay cutler or dexter jackson.

**Just2Big** · 03-03-2010, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by slimy

Steroids build muscle, they do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to burn fat.

Peoper diet and cardio is a definet but steroids ABSOLUTELY help burn fat.

**ironflames** · 03-03-2010, 12:47 PM

ill def agree with everyone who said diet and cardio. and wow 475-300...congrats on that accomplishment. if you have the will to drop that kind of weight then you have the will to drop more before cycling!