T-Bol only cycle?

[Quo]

Anyone got any experience with this?

I'm thinking about doing it. Here's why:

1. I know oral only cycles aren't ideal, but, I'd really only like to put on 10 quality pounds for right now.

2. If I use an injectable test, I will blow up 20-30 pounds, and that would be noticed by people that I just don't want noticing right now.

3. Of the research I've done, Tbol seems like the best for keeping quality gains post-cycle.

4. I hate Dbol and the general consensus seems to be that Dbol only cycles are pretty worthless anyway.

Stats:
30yrs old
5'9"
195 lbs
13% BF
Been training for 8 years, primarily power lifter style (but I am not a competitive powerlifter - I just like the results of the training)
Diet is currently in check - been focusing on a slow cut for the past 2 months (1lb per week), now looking to put on lean bulk.
I have four cycles under my belt (prohormone and AAS), but my last cycle was over two years ago, so, I am basically "all natural" right now.

I plan to run 60mg of TBol / day for 8 weeks alongside Arimidex as needed to combat bloat, and of course normal PCT with Clomid / Nolvadex for 4 weeks.

Again, my goal is 10 quality pounds that I can keep. The 20 - 30 pounds I will put on with an injectable is unfortunately unacceptable for right now.

Any thoughts? Much appreciated.

[Bossman]

Ive known men and woman who have ran Tbol only cycles. There didn't seem to be any water retention, and with no test increase, adex won't do anything anyway. Recovery wasn't bad either. If I were to run an oral only cycle it would be with var, or tbol.

[Quo]

Ah, I see. So skip the adex entirely?

As an aside, from what I've read, it doesn't seem like there should be any reason I should experience a decrease in libido (ala deca dick). Am I reading that correctly?

[Bossman]

It didn't seem to shut them down too hard. Recovery was not much of an issue either.

I have not taken it, but know a couple of guys that only do oral cycles. Tbol seemed productive.

[phat_matt85]

U will get what you are looking for from tbol if your diet if right. I ran tbol alone at 60mgs ed for 8 weeks. I actually used it for cutting and loved loved loveed it. I wasnt looking for anything crazy like u which was perfect. No sides or bloating at all. u def wont need arimidex as long as your diet is clean at least. My abs were poppping like on it but my diet was really clean. I felt great on it, lots of energy all the time and over all very good oral to take i think. Start at 30mgs and work ur way up to 60 mg if u want but u might find be happy at lower dose.

[Quo]

Thanks for the advice guys. Especially Matt, thanks. That's reassuring. Sounds like you did exactly what I have in mind. I'd like to try to lean out while putting on some good pounds.

60mg / ED sound right to everyone? Is there any appreciable difference between 50 and 60? 50 would be a lot cheaper.

[E Police 183]

you wont see that much of a difference between anything from 40-60. When you get higher then that or lower then that is when your'll see a difference. A friend of mine did something similar to what your saying n did 30mg with not much showing, bumped it up to 40 and started to see great results. He wanted to see if bumping to 60 would increase the results even more. It pretty much stayed the same, he then (he's an over do-er) bumped it up more and saw some better results w a bit more sides. You should be good at 50 over 60 if your strapped for cash.

[stevey_6t9]

not the best but sounds ok, its fair mild so i dont think it will affect your liver to much. I've seen people even go up to 150mg.
and you wont need a-dex bcos tbol doesnt aromatize.

[Swifto]

I've used Tbol a fair bit. 60mg/ED is enough for me, sometimes 80mg/ED.

Low impact on the HPTA and it doesnt aromotase.

Tamox 20mg/ED for 4-5 weeks post cycle will suffice.

[Quo]

Yeah, awesome. I kept reading that Tbol didn't aromatise, but with the horrible experiences I've had with sides on Dbol, I guess I was paranoid! Thought it would be good to have adex just in case. But I believe you guys.

Awesome! Sounds perfect for what I have in mind. Thanks a lot for your help and advice guys. I plan to place the order this week. I'll let you know how it goes.