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03-07-2010, 09:44 PM #1
MARCUS! what du u think of my first cycle???
Iv been training for a few years last year really solid and heavy... Im ready to try my first cycle. Im not an expert by any stretch of the imagination but i have done a little bit of research.
My Stats
AGE: 25
HEIGHT: 173cm
WEIGHT: 176
B/F: 14%
DIET: In Check (clean bulking, 7 meals a day plus supps)
TRAINING: 5 days heavy and hard. Lifting very heavy for my size, good form.
My Cycle
Weeks 1-12 Test C 500mg a week
Weeks 1-4 D-Bol 30mg a day, 7days
((Weeks 1-12 Deca 200mg a week, not sure about adding this though???))
PCT
18days after last injection for 30 days
clomid 70/35/35/35
nolva 40/20/20/20
Was going to also stack 200mg of deca a week alongside the test C, but have been advised otherwise in other threads, let me know what you think about that...
If there's anything that could improve or iv left out please let me knw.
thanks
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03-07-2010, 10:04 PM #2
I'm not Marcus, but, that looks like a solid first cycle to me. I'll also agree that deca on a first cycle is not necessary. Uhh, what else... you might want to up the Clomid dosages a touch for your PCT.
Honestly, based on your stats, I think you've got room to grow naturally, but, up to you.
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03-07-2010, 10:20 PM #3
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03-07-2010, 10:31 PM #4
I had to change the cyp to sus because my contact fukd me up, best I can do... Let me knw
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03-07-2010, 10:32 PM #5
sus should be done everyotherday for good results with my experience...
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03-07-2010, 10:42 PM #6
I was thinking Monday thursday 250mg each day
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03-07-2010, 11:03 PM #7
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03-07-2010, 11:08 PM #8
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03-07-2010, 11:09 PM #9
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200mg deca = waste of time and money
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03-07-2010, 11:14 PM #10
wow marcus300 has multiple accounts, thats a banning offence.
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03-07-2010, 11:40 PM #11
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03-08-2010, 12:26 AM #12
Cycle looks fine and i agree with everyone else, there is no need for deca at this stage, just remember to increase the calories as you start to gain weight throughout the cycle.
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03-08-2010, 12:55 AM #13
Thanks heaps Marcus... Will do with the cals.
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03-08-2010, 01:03 AM #14Banned
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A suitable Clomifene dosage would be:
100/50/50/50
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03-08-2010, 01:04 AM #15Associate Member
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Think this way already said but you havent been doing a bulking cycle at 176LBs...thats way too light. Whats your diet in detail?
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03-08-2010, 01:50 AM #16
All this food is weighed after cooking and by protein source I mean either chicken, kangaroo, tuna or beef meat...
Meal 1:
8 eggs, 3 whole with two pieces wholegrain or 150 oats
Then 4 Fish oil
Then Protein shake - 40 grams Total Science Whey Protein
- 5 grams Glutamine
- 5 grams BCAA
Meal 2:- 2-2.5 hrs later and from then on-
200g tuna
300g of rice or sweet potato
100g veggies
3 fish oil
Meal 3,
150-200g of protein source (food weight)
300g-400g Veg
4 fish oil
Meal 4
150-200g of protein source (food weight)
300g Veg
200 Sweet Potato
4 fish oil
Meal 5 (1 hr before gym)
200g tuna
300g of rice or sweet potato
100g veggies
3 fish oil
During Gym Shake (all total science brand)
- 5 grams glutamine
- 5 grams bcaa
- 5 grams creatine
- 15 grams gatarode powder for flavor
Post Gym Shake (all total science brand)
- 40 grams slow release WPI protein
- 5 grams glutamine
- 10 grams bcaa
- 5 grams creatine
Meal 6 (after gym)
200g tuna
300g of rice or sweet potato
100g veggies
3 fish oil
Meal 7 (before bed)
150-200g of protein source (food weight)
300g-400g Veg
4 fish oil
I snack on almonds in between meals.
This is my diet and I hav been getting good gains from it!
Sorry E Police 183 I thought this was a clean bulking diet, maib I'm wrong...
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03-08-2010, 01:57 AM #17
What he is saying is that at 176lbs at your height, you sound awfully light to be doing a cycle. As I mentioned above, I agree. I think you could stand to grow a bit more naturally before you start putting drugs in your system.
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You correct that its clean but you need more whole foods in there more often. btw what does kangaroo taste like? thats nuts
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03-08-2010, 02:32 AM #19
I think that I probably could grow a bit more naturally on this diet but we all make mistakes. What do h mean by more whole foods?? I'm from Australia so kangaroo isn't that hard to come across, it's darker than beef but still taste's pretty much the same, very lean and high in protein...
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03-08-2010, 03:05 AM #20
I would run the PCT like this:
50mg of Clomid and 20mg of Nolva straight across the board for 4-5 weeks. This is about as high of a dose of each that your body can utilize and will minimize side effects.
Beginning PCT 18 days after last shot of sus is good, but I would start it at 12 days for E or C (give the SERMs a few days to build up in your system before you are androgen depleted. PCT drugs are cheap, so better safe than sorry).
Skip the Deca on your first couple cycles.
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03-08-2010, 03:45 AM #21
I'm from Australia but I'm trying to get my pct shipped from the U.S. Which is quiet possible. I'm having troubl searching for clomid and nolva on ar-r though. It kees coming up with this liqued stuff when I search it... Does any1 know if I'm looking the wrong way??
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03-08-2010, 03:51 AM #23
LiquidClomi/LiquidTamox= Clomid/Nolva
Liquidex is the AI if you meed one.
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03-08-2010, 04:08 AM #25
Iv typed in clomid nolva but it dosent come up???
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03-08-2010, 05:27 AM #26
No stress I figured it out
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03-08-2010, 05:38 AM #27
Futher in depth PCT dosages would b great??? A few people say differant things???
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03-08-2010, 07:45 AM #28
nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50
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03-08-2010, 08:58 AM #29Associate Member
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Is marcus some super guru or something? Is he a pro? He all of a sudden sounds like the guy with all the answers.
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03-08-2010, 11:30 AM #30
^^^^^elfin1mf- he has a great deal of knowledge and i think the reason people use his name specifically is because he spends a lot of time on here helping people with questions and their info, he also responds to appropriate questions in a very timely manner....
Op dr pepper- nolvadex is going to be referred to as tamox, and the chlomid is listed as clomi on the ar-r website.
Doses are as follow on regular average pct- nolva-40/20/20/20 clomid- 100/50/50/50.
But- i just read a thread by swifto that is still at the top of this page listed as- "tamoxifen , clomid, toremifene, and rolaxifine. Which for what". It reads that a dose of "20mgs a day is enough to restore hpta in 6 weeks sometimes even less. So there is debate of taking 40mg's of tamox/nolva as it is a high dose, but most people like to dose them high the first week in the same manner as frontloading.
Deca not needed yet, use it with your next cycle it will be more beneficial.
Good luck, hope this helped a bit,
"dirty d"
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03-08-2010, 04:30 PM #36
Marcus is my Idol!
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03-08-2010, 05:22 PM #37
The only reason I put marcus's name on my thread is because everything I read that Marcus had posted on has been explained really well and always right. So I thought if I want good help il ask him and that's what I got. Your a legend mate and welcome anytime down under in Australia. Thanks
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03-08-2010, 06:03 PM #38
looks like a solid cycle to me
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did you even read his post? another gr8 advisor for steroid .com
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