Final summer cycle needs approval..

**playboii** · 03-08-2010, 10:03 PM

ok here we go..

Week 1-3 Dbol 60mg *not sure if i should add this or not what you think?*
Week 1-14 Test Enanthate 500mg
Week 1-14 1-Test Cyp 400mg
Week 1-16 Winstrol 100mg ED
Week 1-14 HCG 500mg or 1000mg a week *What you guys think?* also how far should I space the HCG shots?

Day after week 16 Clomid 100mg & Nolva 20mg Day 1-30

anastrozole .5mg e3d *or eod?* for anti e,bloating

also how much tribulus should you take during pct to help?

**mad04007** · 03-08-2010, 10:20 PM

holy shiz thats a long time on winni....u might consider cutting that down to 6 weeks maybe? and u will prolly need a good joint support!

i am about to use some HCG on cycle...ive researched that 250-500 iu's 2x a week is good.

dbol is a good kick start if ur ok with some intial bloat and weight gain. i would add it! JMO

as far as the test..900mg total per week..am i readin that right? whats ur cycle expierence and specifically test exp?

**BennyLom** · 03-08-2010, 10:56 PM

I know only little so take it for what it's worth, but:

1.) Why mix two different Testosterone esters (is there a thought behind or you just couldn't get enough of either one of the products and so you mix them?)

2.) That is A LOT of Testosterone...

3.) That is a LONG cycle and considering general consensus is you would need to either increase dosages OR discontinue somewhere around week 8, your cycle layout doesn't make much sense (OK, you add Winstrol at week 16 but maybe you should change your use of Testosterone instead?)

4.) Your use of oral LIVER TOXIC steroids totals 10 weeks and at (in my opinion) pretty high dosages. I would remove the D-bol and shorten your Winstrol use and decrease it's dose...

**DurdensArmy** · 03-08-2010, 11:23 PM

hes using 1-test cyp not test cyp i have been reading alot about it its not the same i am going to run it in my next cycle after summer

**DurdensArmy** · 03-08-2010, 11:24 PM

16 weeks on winny is going to destroy you run it for the last 6 weeks, if you run that for 16 weeks you will need to put on a list for a liver donation

**Vitruvian-Man** · 03-09-2010, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by playboii

ok here we go..

Week 1-3 Dbol 60mg *not sure if i should add this or not what you think?*
Week 1-14 Test Enanthate 500mg
Week 1-14 1-Test Cyp 400mg
Week 1-16 Winstrol 100mg ED
Week 1-14 HCG 500mg or 1000mg a week *What you guys think?* also how far should I space the HCG shots?

Day after week 16 Clomid 100mg & Nolva 20mg Day 1-30

anastrozole .5mg e3d *or eod?* for anti e,bloating

also how much tribulus should you take during pct to help?

Cycle looks really nice. I'm brewing up some 1-TC myself in a week or so, can't wait for it! lol... In any case, I would make a couple of modifications:

Week 1-4 Dbol 40mg
Week 1-14 Test Enanthate 500mg
Week 1-14 1-Test Cyp 400mg
Week 10-16 Winstrol 100mg ED
Week 1-14 HCG @ 250iu every 3rd day

Just lowered d-bol and extended for a week. Changed winny to 6 weeks. 16 weeks on that compound would send your lipids through the roof. (if you want to run a DHT compound longer look into masteron ; and swap it for the winstrol.)

Add anastrozole @ 0.25mg/eod or ed (depending on how you've responded to the compound in the past... IMO 0.25mg/eod should be suffice; however, if you're gyno prone, I would switch it to ED.)

Good luck,

-VM

**playboii** · 03-09-2010, 10:10 AM

Hey guys it was a typo winstrol will be week 13-16 100mg Ed And yes 1-test cyp is not another testosterone I've read that they compare to tren /primo without the sides of tren. Sounds pretty amazing.

**playboii** · 03-09-2010, 10:21 PM

ok so i decided instead of the dbol i am doing

Week 1-4 Anavar 100mg ED

**Vitruvian-Man** · 03-09-2010, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by playboii

ok so i decided instead of the dbol i am doing

Week 1-4 Anavar 100mg ED

100mg/ed of var is a sick dosage. I'm a high advocate that it has similar effects to tren in its hardening/cutting ability. However, if you've only got enough for 4 weeks I would drop the dosage to 70 - 80mg/ed and extend it for 5 - 6 weeks.

(That said, if you've got enough to run the var @ 100mg/ed for 6 weeks I would just go for that! lol)

Great choice over the d-bol.

-VM

**Jbert22** · 03-09-2010, 10:56 PM

can somebody please tell me the diff. between 1-t-cyp and regulare test cyp? call me a dumbass but idk lol. or just post a link where i can search it on my own lol