8 weeks dbols - need PCT?

[YoungGunsNY]

This is a quicky - I planned on running a full blown cycle - dbols for 8 weeks.. during the 5th week add in test/deca - pct in week 12 but i changed my mind about the test/deca - so im wondering if i sttill need some PCT for jus dbols and if so whats best regimen? THANKS

[dock holliday]

are you serious or being a troll? have you researched dbol? if so, why would you not need PCT? if you don't, you will get water bloated and bigger. start losing everything, and quit working out due to frustration, and be smaller than when you started.

dbol alone cycles are not practical, even with PCT

[Bonaparte]

are you serious or being a troll? have you researched dbol? if so, why would you not need PCT? if you don't, you will get water bloated and bigger. start losing everything, and quit working out due to frustration, and be smaller than when you started.

dbol alone cycles are not practical, even with PCT

Please don't give advice if you don't know what you're talking about. Yes, he should use a SERM for PCT, but not because of those absurd reasons.

[jjfman]

Alright mate I ran a 4weeks dbol only cycle and had good results with no noticeable sides. My pct was nolva and clomid ran for 4weeks, since coming off dbol I've lost nothing in size or strength, in fact I have gained but my diet and workout will of played a huge part in this.

Good luck mate

[ak3179]

Alright mate I ran a 4weeks dbol only cycle and had good results with no noticeable sides. My pct was nolva and clomid ran for 4weeks, since coming off dbol I've lost nothing in size or strength, in fact I have gained but my diet and workout will of played a huge part in this.

Good luck mate

I was just wondering what your size and strength gains were from your dbol only cycle? I was just curious because I am going to start a dbol only cycle her in the next few days but everyone is telling me that I will loose everything and it is a bad idea. I have a couple of friends that did a dbol only cycle and they had great results from it also.

[jjfman]

I was just wondering what your size and strength gains were from your dbol only cycle? I was just curious because I am going to start a dbol only cycle her in the next few days but everyone is telling me that I will loose everything and it is a bad idea. I have a couple of friends that did a dbol only cycle and they had great results from it also.

check my log of all results gained on cycle
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=420694

but diet, good workout and rest is hugely important i got them all sorted b4 i cycled and that definatley helped me keep gains whilst doin pct.

[dec11]

This is a quicky - I planned on running a full blown cycle - dbols for 8 weeks.. during the 5th week add in test/deca - pct in week 12 but i changed my mind about the test/deca - so im wondering if i sttill need some PCT for jus dbols and if so whats best regimen? THANKS

bad planning, you obv dont know what you are doing, dbol is one the worse for shutting down so yes you do need pct, for everything

[Bonaparte]

bad planning, you obv dont know what you are doing, dbol is one the worse for shutting down so yes you do need pct, for everything

Dbol is actually not very suppressive. Mainly because of its 3-keto alteration and because it has a short active life. I've seen a study where patients were given 100mg/day for several months, and their test and lh values were only diminished by around 30%. I'll try to find it again, since I find myself bringing this point up all too often.

[c-Z]

Dbol is actually not very suppressive. Mainly because of its 3-keto alteration and because it has a short active life. I've seen a study where patients were given 100mg/day for several months, and their test and lh values were only diminished by around 30%. I'll try to find it again, since I find myself bringing this point up all too often.

Please do so. 100mg a day? most don't even use half that amount. And running a dose that high for that long.... I wouldn't think your liver would be able to last much longer. Not to mention I am sure you would have some nasty estrogen related side affects.

[dec11]

Dbol is actually not very suppressive. Mainly because of its 3-keto alteration and because it has a short active life. I've seen a study where patients were given 100mg/day for several months, and their test and lh values were only diminished by around 30%. I'll try to find it again, since I find myself bringing this point up all too often.

bollocks, it is suppressive, i know 1st hand

[Bonaparte]

bollocks, it is suppressive, i know 1st hand

And how do you know how suppressive it was? Did you take it in a controlled study with frequent bloodwork? Or did it just make you lethargic? Because lethargy can be independent from suppression. Dbol makes me lethargic after a day or two, but it sure as hell isn't because I'm shut down.

[Jbert22]

Youngguns. Disregard most of these replies. Running a dbol only cycle could do more harm than good. Pct will be needed. Surprised nobody asked for your stats.

[Jbert22]

Youngguns. Disregard most of these replies. Running a dbol only cycle could do more harm than good. Pct will be needed. Surprised nobody asked for your stats.

[dec11]

And how do you know how suppressive it was? Did you take it in a controlled study with frequent bloodwork? Or did it just make you lethargic? Because lethargy can be independent from suppression. Dbol makes me lethargic after a day or two, but it sure as hell isn't because I'm shut down.

why do you always parrot bloodwork, just cos you've read it on here? its fookin boring. i knw when my sex drive has dived and why, and when the hell did i mention being lethargic?

[magic32]

As to be expected in a Dbol only conversation, this thread is littered with assorted myths, parroted mistruths and a whole lot of flat out fiction. I don’t claim to be the foremost steroid authority, but I do feel both experientially and learnedly qualified to answer most of these questions…no offense to anyone!!!

YES - you can make significant and sustainable gains from a Dbol only cycle.
YES - you do need to take PCT afterwards, as with a full cycle of any gear whether merely suppressed or shut down.
NO - you can’t keep all of your gains from this type of cycle, because the high amount of aromatization expressly forbids it.
NO - 8wks of Dbol only is not a good idea for several very obvious reasons (read the profile).

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I hope that answers the questions. Nevertheless, there are FAR better cycles (even for the needle squeamish) than Dbol only!!!

[DaBullet]

As to be expected in a Dbol only conversation, this thread is littered with assorted myths, parroted mistruths and a whole lot of flat out fiction. I don’t claim to be the foremost steroid authority, but I do feel both experientially and learnedly qualified to answer most of these questions…no offense to anyone!!!

YES - you can make significant and sustainable gains from a Dbol only cycle.
YES - you do need to take PCT afterwards, as with a full cycle of any gear whether merely suppressed or shut down.
NO - you can’t keep all of your gains from this type of cycle, because the high amount of aromatization expressly forbids it.
NO - 8wks of Dbol only is not a good idea for several very obvious reasons (read the profile).

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Barring Dr. Frankenstein, whose experiments were largely based on creating life, I can’t POSSIBLY imagine any scientist who’d have the audacity much less the IRB (Institutional Review Board’s) authorization for human subjects, or even a pseudo-decent reason for desiring to administer 100mgs ED in a short or long-term study!!! But that’s me, and maybe my imagination is limited, so I’ll be more than happy to apologize once/if this seemingly conveniently missing study should ever surface.

I hope that answers the questions. Nevertheless, there are FAR better cycles (even for the needle squeamish) than Dbol only!!!

you tell them Magic!! man is on fire!! One day I hope to have your knowledge. But come on bro of course you need a pct, you need a pct for PH cycles why wouldnt you when taking the real deal. Good luck bro.

[jordann]

Anyone doing a dbol only cycle has not done their research and should not be using AAS.

[Nooomoto]

8 weeks of dbol, huh? That sounds like a great idea.

[Fetch]

Yes, do a PCT. Nolva/Clomid 4 weeks.

Side note, I finished a 10 week cycle of DBol around 8 weeks ago. Gained around 15-18 pounds, have since lost about 3 or 4. I've actually made further strength gains since coming off. I'm not saying it's the best idea to cycle DBol only (I thought I was stacking it, but my Sust was fake), but with proper diet and PCT, you don't neccessarily totally deflate.

[jjfman]

but with proper diet and PCT, you don't neccessarily totally deflate.

my point exactly I don't see how people can be so negative when they have not ran dbol alone and just heard about it beig bad mouthed.

[jordann]

my point exactly I don't see how people can be so negative when they have not ran dbol alone and just heard about it beig bad mouthed.

Nobody runs dbol only cycles except impatient, inexperienced people like yourself.

I swear this board should have a mandatory IQ test to pass before you can post.

[jjfman]

Dbol only with good cycle support, good pct and good diet can be an effective cycle. End of.

[jordann]

Dbol only with good cycle support, good pct and good diet can be an effective cycle. End of.

You can say that about anything. Training naturally with a good diet will get you the same results with no sides. Keep living in your fantasy world of dbol only cycles, but do us a favour and take the 95% of the other uneducated members with you.

[dec11]

my point exactly I don't see how people can be so negative when they have not ran dbol alone and just heard about it beig bad mouthed.

i have and its shit, now get over it

["DIRTY D" SANCHEZ]

Setup for liver problems/pain. Terrible from the get go

start fro scratch- diet and regimen

"dirty d"

[Teufel_Hunden]

Don't bother with dbol only. Save the dbol and wait until you get some test.

[jared530]

I was excited to open this thread so I can read all the flaming. lol

[Ashop]

This is a quicky - I planned on running a full blown cycle - dbols for 8 weeks.. during the 5th week add in test/deca - pct in week 12 but i changed my mind about the test/deca - so im wondering if i sttill need some PCT for jus dbols and if so whats best regimen? THANKS

Yes,,you most definitely need a proper PCT.

[Hard.On]

Declan11
I feel the pain in your posts.

So many people giving terrible advice.
Most threads are turning into arguments,
and it sucks when you know your right.

[dec11]

Declan11
I feel the pain in your posts.

So many people giving terrible advice.
Most threads are turning into arguments,
and it sucks when you know your right.

yeah mate, tell me about it. this place should be called contradiction.com lol

[PetrX]

greg valentino did an article on the magazine muscle development and talked about how arnold and lou and other bodybuilders did dbol cycles only cuz they couldnt afford test and stuff like that when they first started and said it worked pretty good for them.. Its on the july 2009 mag .. But so many people here on the forum get on attack mode when they here this lol kind of makes u wonder.. I tried it when I was about 20 yrs old, i put on about 14 lbs in 6 weeks, then when I came off it dropped about 5 lbs and the bloat came off, only sides i felt were some acne on my shoulders and bloat but that was about it.. Would i do it now?? prob not lol.. but overall not a bad experience. But everyones body , diet, and work outs are different so who knows. Oh and had no problems with my man land.

[lexruger]

i dont care how suppressive or shut down it'll make me.... still wont do a dbol only cycle