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    First Cycle, Shredding, Advice?

    Ok so I have joined this forum a few weeks ago knowing only what I could research on my own. This forum has opened my eyes up to many things and I am very grateful for that.

    THis will be my first time using steriods. I am 235 lbs, in the military. Decent shape, 24 year old. I am looking for shredding not mass. This is the cycle I am thinking about...

    Masteron (400 Mg/ Week EOD)
    Winstrol (400 Mg/ Week EOD)
    Testosterone Propionate (400 mg/ week EOD)
    What do you think?

    Additionally I was thinking about one of these but I am not very educated on them yet and was wondering on your thoughts? And don't know if I need a fourth for a cycle?
    Trenbolone Acetate
    Trenbolone Enanthate
    Tri – Trenabol

    As far as my PCT goes, I am still researching what I want to do, but I will not start until I have that nailed out. Ideas for that is welcome as well.

    Diet is taken care of thanks to the diet forums on here.

    As far as sides go. I was thinking about getting some arimidex in case I start getting water retention or gyno. And milk thistle. Anything else?

    Hopefully I covered everything and stayed within the boundries of the rules. If not I apologize.

    Ok guys have at it... Thanks.

    -AM

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    Ok so after some great advice. I am going to hold off on AAS for a bit to get diet in order and BF% as well.

    I am going to use Test e (after everything is good) like it was said in the beginners guide. However, I have a question.
    They say I could use dbol with it for the 1st 4 weeks but I don't really want to gain that much mass. I already weigh 230lbs, could I do something like Masteron or Winni? Thanks.

    Keep the advice coming!! I appreciate it!

    -AM
    Last edited by ArmyMan04; 03-16-2010 at 01:59 PM. Reason: update

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    That's a lot for your first cycle. Also steroids in the military is a bad idea. I don't know why you would blatantly advertise that you are in the military. I used to be in the Army and I've seen guys get busted for it, you're playing with fire.

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    Thanks for the reply. What do you think I should cut out?

    Anyone else?

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    um...try cutting out the STEROIDS!!!! while in the military. my cousin is at bragg and incarcerated. he picked up a felony for being in posession of a controlled substance (decca and test).

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    I'm with the rest of the guys here...

    Steroids use in the military is like playing with fire. You never know when you might be hospitalized and have your blood work drawn by the doctors. I'm prior military, and accidents happen man....

    Secondly that a crap load of gear for your first cycle.

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    Guys I appreciate the remarks about the military. Ill take that into consideration... however, id rather get advice on the cycle. Because if I don't then I could do too much or something wrong.

    So you say its way to much... what should I cut out?

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    yah way too much for a first cycle.

    Steroids won't burn fat...cardio and diet will.

    what's your height and body fat?

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    What's your diet and cardio schedule like?

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    Cardio is 3 - 5x a week 30 - 60 min (depending on how my body is feeling)
    My diet right now is in flux. I was thinking about trying the one from here. But I am not exactly sure. Ideas?

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    Get your bf% down and just do a simple cycle of test e for 12 weeks and then follow up with a pct of nolvadex and chlomid. You need to get your diet in check first.

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    You mean mg not mcg right?

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    Oneton Wrangler... thanks for the advice

    redz yes I changed it above. Thanks.

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    If you read the threads labeled beginner cycles you will see that the recommended first cycle is a simple test e 500 mg 10-12 week cycle. If you diet and train properly you will get excellent results. The thought behind this is you should only introduce one compound to your body to see how it reacts. You could also consider a d-bol kicker to get you going before the effects of test set in.
    you should really educate yourself before you begin to put aas into your body, you do not even have a pct yet.

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    Cobra Thanks for the advice. I haven't started a cycle yet nor do I plan on doing so Until I am completely comfortable with everything. I only posted here to get some feedback and do research. I am learning... give me time.

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    You shouldn't use anything except test for your first run with gear. If you develop sides which compound did you get it from? You wont know since you have never ran either one.

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    Very good advice Rana thanks!

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