A-dex with test... worth it?

[donberry427]

im soon to start a cycle of 500mg sust/testE for 10-12 weeks. I have a-dex onhand. Should i take a low dose throughout to cut down on bloat and estrogen? ... im really not looking for the bloated look


I would guess .25mg ED is enough to start off with and if i need more than ill add more.... so is it worth it?

[lexruger]

take it every other day

[donberry427]

cool cool

[Hard.On]

only take it if you need it

[donberry427]

why is that?

[robofish]

i hear it messes with your gains... but im in the same boat as you i just started a cycle but i dont want that bloated look...

[Just2Big]

Im on week 3 of Test E cycle and think Im getting gyno, or not? I cant tell. I got a little bb / pellet size ball behind my nipple. Its prob cartalage. But any way Im going to take liquidex E3D. I was debaiting on upping my Test from 500 a week to 750 in case the Liquidex hinders my gains at all. Any thoughts on upping doses of Test E because of liquidex? Or would that just make taking the liquidex in the first place pointless because I would just be upping the Test E.

[Okinawa_Power]

If you up the dose of TEST you will be wasting your time taking the A-Dex......Also look into getting some letro for the gyno...

[AlphaGenetics]

you need to start nolva asap!!! 40 mg's ed until symptoms subside. Do not up the test. keeep taking the adex. gl

[AlphaGenetics]

have you been taking adex throughout the whole cycle?

[Mooseman33]

this subject is perfect for the parrots of the board...

i personallty always use it at a low dose on cycle.
who wants to wait for gyno to start before taking action. i have not seen it hinder my gains, however keep ur dose low...
but tits are for chicks, and i dont want anything to do with that cause surgery is the only fix....
and who wants to be bloated....

just my views, i no alot of people feel different...

[AlphaGenetics]

this subject is perfect for the parrots of the board...

i personallty always use it at a low dose on cycle.
who wants to wait for gyno to start before taking action. i have not seen it hinder my gains, however keep ur dose low...
but tits are for chicks, and i dont want anything to do with that cause surgery is the only fix....
and who wants to be bloated....

just my views, i no alot of people feel different...

are you gyno prone? Have you ever run a test cycle without adex?

[Just2Big]

I have ran 2 cycles with Test and never used a A.I. I even ran a gram a week before with no prblems. At first I thought this bb/pellet size ball was nothing but now I do think its gyno starting. I started taking 40 Tamox yesterday with .5 adex. I will do that for a week if it goes down I will then down the dose to .25 adex either ED,EOD or E3D. And lower tamox down to 10 a day to maintain.

[Just2Big]

Any thoughts on Adex instead of Letro? From what I read and hear Adex should work and is a little less hash then Letro.

[bjohnson1968]

this subject is perfect for the parrots of the board...

i personallty always use it at a low dose on cycle.
who wants to wait for gyno to start before taking action. i have not seen it hinder my gains, however keep ur dose low...
but tits are for chicks, and i dont want anything to do with that cause surgery is the only fix....
and who wants to be bloated....

just my views, i no alot of people feel different...

x2 I wish I would have listened I'll never cycle without it and the funny thing is I had it the whole time I was just in the "don't do it unless you need it" state of mind guess what I needed it and now after 2 weeks Im running letro
Go figure

Peace

[bjohnson1968]

you need to start nolva asap!!! 40 mg's ed until symptoms subside. Do not up the test. keeep taking the adex. gl

You do know that running nolva while on an AI will reduce the effects of the AI

[Hard.On]

why is that?

It will effect you in many ways,
dry joints
some get lower sex drive etc.

Start your test cycle, see how it goes and if you dont expierience any sides then dont use Adex. Its that e z.

Whats the point of using it if you dont need it

[Hard.On]

x2 I wish I would have listened I'll never cycle without it and the funny thing is I had it the whole time I was just in the "don't do it unless you need it" state of mind guess what I needed it and now after 2 weeks Im running letro
Go figure

Peace

I was prepared to run it with my test, dbol cycle.
Im 6 weeks in, only had a tiny bit of bloat while on dbol.
No other sides.

Everyone is different, you sometimes need to experiment with yourself

[bjohnson1968]

I was prepared to run it with my test, dbol cycle.
Im 6 weeks in, only had a tiny bit of bloat while on dbol.
No other sides.

Everyone is different, you sometimes need to experiment with yourself

This is true hopefully the OP isn't one of those guys who gets gyno
if your on test it wont lower your sex drive as you state
Good luck eliminating gyno with adex once it starts dint work for me

Peace

[Hard.On]

This is true hopefully the OP isn't one of those guys who gets gyno
if your on test it wont lower your sex drive as you state
Good luck eliminating gyno with adex once it starts dint work for me

Peace

Thats why there are certain things you should have on hand when you are doing a cycle.
Plan ahead
The last thing you want is to struggle to get something when you need it


A test only cycle is really a basic cycle

IMO you dont need adex
and please dont start a thread asking if you should include HCG as well

[bjohnson1968]

Thats why there are certain things you should have on hand when you are doing a cycle.
Plan ahead
The last thing you want is to struggle to get something when you need it


A test only cycle is really a basic cycle

IMO you dont need adex
and please dont start a thread asking if you should include HCG as well

I had adex ON HAND it still did nothing once gyno symtoms started IMHO you could control it possible but not make it better

[Mooseman33]

This is true hopefully the OP isn't one of those guys who gets gyno
if your on test it wont lower your sex drive as you state Good luck eliminating gyno with adex once it starts dint work for me

Peace

pending on your dose of Adex it can most def. lower ur sex drive. which is why i suggest i low dose to start, you can always increase it...

and to the other guy, why wait till u need it to take it, meaning why wait till u develop gyno beofre u take action. preventative action is the best course.

but then again i dont want a set of tits....

[Hard.On]

I had adex ON HAND it still did nothing once gyno symtoms started IMHO you could control it possible but not make it better

you should have tried nolvadex first
you may have had more luck

[bjohnson1968]

you should have tried nolvadex first
you may have had more luck

Did that no luck

[bjohnson1968]

pending on your dose of Adex it can most def. lower ur sex drive. which is why i suggest i low dose to start, you can always increase it...

and to the other guy, why wait till u need it to take it, meaning why wait till u develop gyno beofre u take action. preventative action is the best course.

but then again i dont want a set of tits....

Well of course if you dont control the dose it can for surely effect your sex drive I just figured that to be a given

[Hard.On]

pending on your dose of Adex it can most def. lower ur sex drive. which is why i suggest i low dose to start, you can always increase it...

and to the other guy, why wait till u need it to take it, meaning why wait till u develop gyno beofre u take action. preventative action is the best course.

but then again i dont want a set of tits....

I agree somewhat

But....
How many people on their first cycle of test ONLY have developed Gyno?

An aspirin a day helps prevent heart attacks.
Do you take an aspirin a day?

To prevent the swine flu you should have got an H1N1 shot/
Did everyone get one?
not me

I dont want a set of tits either.
I just believe if you dont need it, dont take it.

[Hard.On]

Well of course if you dont control the dose it can for surely effect your sex drive I just figured that to be a given

Ronnie Rowland swears that it doesnt matter what hes on,
if he touches adex his sex drive goes to "0"

I know that is not the case with everyone
Just giving an example

[Mooseman33]

I agree somewhat

But....
How many people on their first cycle of test ONLY have developed Gyno?

An aspirin a day helps prevent heart attacks.
Do you take an aspirin a day?

To prevent the swine flu you should have got an H1N1 shot/
Did everyone get one?
not me

I dont want a set of tits either.
I just believe if you dont need it, dont take it.

u have to be kidding me....doesnt matter if its ur first cycle or 15th, gyno can develop.
and yes i take a asprin a day...why would u not with these compounds we take.

question, how many cycles have u ran?

[Hard.On]

u have to be kidding me....doesnt matter if its ur first cycle or 15th, gyno can develop.
and yes i take a asprin a day...why would u not with these compounds we take.

question, how many cycles have u ran?

2,
First one was a sad one,
sadly I was not aware of this forum at the time

Currently in the middle of my second. (my only side is dry joints and a tiny bit of bloat when I was on DBOL)
Im sure you have run way more and therefore have more knowledge

I understand that gyno can delvelop at any time.
But everyone is different, thats the only point im trying to get accross.
Just because you take adex doesnt mean this specific OP needs to take adex.

Had he said he had gyno problems in the past then it is a no brainer.

He wants to reduce bloat/ LOW SODIUM DIET

[Mooseman33]

i agree everyones different.

low sodium diet is not always the answer, bloat can still grab u with that...

and i agree, i started cycling before finding this place, man i was stupid. this place has been a blessing.
and i dint ask about ur cycle exp cause i think im more knowlwdgeable, we both can still learn from each other....i was just curious...

[Hard.On]

i agree everyones different.

low sodium diet is not always the answer, bloat can still grab u with that...

and i agree, i started cycling before finding this place, man i was stupid. this place has been a blessing.
and i dint ask about ur cycle exp cause i think im more knowlwdgeable, we both can still learn from each other....i was just curious...

Mooseman

[Just2Big]

For a small bb/pellet size lump. No pain, itch or swelling. Should I run Tamox or Adex. I have both. There are differnt opinions on using one or the other. Some opinions say both.

[Just2Big]

You do know that running nolva while on an AI will reduce the effects of the AI

In the sticky it says take Adex for estrogen control and tamox for gyno reduction. Can you run both? I would like to reduce the little lump I have but also reduce estrogen so it dont happen again. I was going to run Nova at 40 a day and Adex .25 aday for a week then drop the nova to 10 a day and Adex .25 EOD

[bjohnson1968]

For a small bb/pellet size lump. No pain, itch or swelling. Should I run Tamox or Adex. I have both. There are differnt opinions on using one or the other. Some opinions say both.

listen as you can tell by this thread that is somewhat hijacked sorry op its not cut and dry I can tell you I started with adex ran that 2 weeks and overlapped a few days with nolva that I ran for 10 days 60mgs at first 3 days then 40mgs for 7 more mine was getting worse I started letro 2 days ago and dont honestly know if thats going to work. I may have not given the nolva or the adex long enough but like I say mine was getting worse and I wasnt waiting.

Peace and good luck

[Just2Big]

Didnt mean to jack the thread. I fig it went with it and the OP might get usefull knowlage as well. Thanks all.