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    Question TBol and Test?

    Hey guys, I am trying to get as many opinions as I can. I did my best to put together a cycle with a diet and all. My goals are to get great definition, some strength and size gains, but mainly as great of cuts as possible. I was recommended this cycle, but also heard that Tbol and var, or winny would work. Not looking to be a bodybuilder, dont wanna squat 600 pounds or anything. Just look great. Any advice would be very appreciated.
    Also I am getting my bf down naturally to 14% or lower before starting any cycle.


    Stats:
    5'8
    180
    18%bf
    age - 24
    Athletic

    Measures
    chest 46 inch
    shoulders 54 inch
    bicep unflexed 14.5inch

    Cycle
    Test Prop-125mg EOD for 8 weeks
    T/bol-60mg ED for 6 weeks

    PCT plan
    PCT
    wk 1, 100 mg clomid, 40 mg Nolva
    wk 2, 50 mg clomid, 40 mg Nolva
    wk 3, 50 mg clomid, 20 mg Nolva
    wk 4, 50 mg clomid, 20 mg Nolva

    Workout plan

    Day One
    Chest and Biceps

    Incline Bench 3 sets x 10 sets
    Seated Dumb BellCurls 3 rsets x 12 reps
    Flat Bench 3 sets x 10 reps
    Preacher Curls 3 sets x 10 reps
    Decline Bench 3 sets x 10 reps
    Standing barbell curls 3 Sets x 10 reps
    Pec Dec(Butterfly) 3 sets x 10 reps
    30 minute medium intensity cardio.

    Day Two
    Legs and Abs(do abs 2 times a week)
    Squats 3 sets x 8 Reps
    Leg Press 3 sets x 8 Reps
    Hamstring Curls 3 sets x 10 reps
    Leg Extensions 3 sets x 12 reps
    Calf Raises 3 sets x 10 Reps
    Front Crunches – 30 Seconds(ABs)
    Right/Left side Crunches – 30 Seconds each(Abs)
    Flat Plank – 30 Seconds(Abs)
    Right/Left Plank – 30 Seconds each(Abs)

    Day Three
    Back and Triceps
    Lat Pulldowns 3 sets x 10 reps
    Over head Extensions 3 Sets x 10 Reps
    One arm dumbbell rows 3 sets x 12 reps
    Seated Rows 3 Sets x 12 reps
    Dumb bell KickBacks 3 sets x 12 reps
    Bent Over Dumbell rows 3 sets x 10 reps
    Reverse tricep cable pulldowns 3 sets x 10 reps
    30 minutes medium intensity cardio

    Day 4
    Shoulders/Traps
    Bent Over Dumbell raises 3 sets x 10 reps
    Dumbell shrugs 3 Sets x 12 reps
    Upright barbell rows 3 Sets x 10 Reps
    Shoulder Press 3 Sets x 10 Reps
    Bent over dumbbell lateral raises 3 Sets x 12 Reps
    Frontal dumbbell raises 3 sets x 12 Reps
    30 minutes of medium cardio

    Day Five
    60 minutes of medium cardio

    Then 1 day rest then add a set and move up weight if possible.

    Diet
    7am:
    2scoops whey isolate
    1/2c oats
    55/3/29/242


    9:00 am
    6 egg whites
    2 whole eggs
    1 c oatmeal
    3 omeaga 3 6 9 caps
    45/14/54/570

    11:30
    1 can of tuna
    1/2 c oatmeal
    55/3/29/278


    1:30pm
    6oz chicken
    med. sweet pat.
    1 c green beans
    3 omega caps
    50.8/7/31.3/481


    4:00
    6oz chicken
    1 tbs nat pnb
    51.5/11/3/350


    6:00
    6oz chicken
    1 c green beans
    3 omega caps
    49.5/7.5/7.5/345

    WORK OUT 7-8PM

    9:00
    2 scoops casin
    1tbs nat pnb
    49.5/11/7/330

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    Bump

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    imo i would get your body fat down to around 12% then run a test prop and winny cycle,it sounds like you wnat to go for the lean look so i would do this

    weeks 1-10 200mgs test prop eod

    weeks 2-10 50/75mgs winny every day

    i have ran that cycle in the past and belive me its a great cycle ,very very effective when your a low body fat .

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    Yea, thanks bro. I am gonna get my bf down to a min of 14, but gonna try for 12%. did you get great definition on that cycle? any sides? tell me the story.

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    started cycle at 9% body -

    i had a 13lb gain and moved to 10% ,man its a very very very good cycle if you diet right ,the pumps in my arms were unreal in th gym ,i looked like a pro ,the hardness from winny is unreal ,you have to try it and take to it to understand how good winny and prop can be together.

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    what about test susp and winny?

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