Starting Winny Cycle!!!!

**Brady Johnson** · 03-18-2010, 02:26 AM

I am going to do a winstrol only cycle. I know most will say to run test with it but im actually looking to add some MPH to my fastball without getting JACKED and huge. I also love sculpting my body into the hard ripped look.

I plan on running the lower end of the dosage which will be 50mg injected every other day. EOD. Post cycle will be liquid nolvadex for 4 week. 50-40-30-20. I am looking to become more explosive and decrease some body fat also.

I am currently 6'2 215lb. Around 11% body fat. I have ran many cycles of prohormones. About 8 cycles in the last three years with awesome results. I am just getting tired of the water weight they put on and want to step it up another level that will bring results in the goals i want to achieve.

Any input would be great

**G4R** · 03-18-2010, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by Brady Johnson

I am going to do a winstrol only cycle. I know most will say to run test with it but im actually looking to add some MPH to my fastball without getting JACKED and huge. I also love sculpting my body into the hard ripped look.

I plan on running the lower end of the dosage which will be 50mg injected every other day. EOD. Post cycle will be liquid nolvadex for 4 week. 50-40-30-20. I am looking to become more explosive and decrease some body fat also.

I am currently 6'2 215lb. Around 11% body fat. I have ran many cycles of prohormones. About 8 cycles in the last three years with awesome results. I am just getting tired of the water weight they put on and want to step it up another level that will bring results in the goals i want to achieve.

Any input would be great

Not saying it will happen to you, but you can have some serious joint issues with running only Winny, which isnt going to help your fastball.

Age?

**jjfman** · 03-18-2010, 02:48 AM

I've never ran winny so this is t from personal experience but I to have heard people have 'dry joints' from winny. Look into vettin something for joint care someone on here will be able to help you out

What's your stats?

**hankdiesel** · 03-18-2010, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by jjfman

I've never ran winny so this is t from personal experience but I to have heard people have 'dry joints' from winny. Look into vettin something for joint care someone on here will be able to help you out

What's your stats?

His stats are listed. Winny can definitely dry you out and I don't think it's going to benefit your fastball that much. If it were me I'd take some test to improve strength. You not going to get huge from it. You can actually stay the same bodyweight with a proper diet and cardio program.

**redz** · 03-18-2010, 08:16 AM

I think you picked the wrong compound for your goals also winny needs to be shot ed not eod.

**Chev** · 03-18-2010, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by redz

I think you picked the wrong compound for your goals also winny needs to be shot ed not eod.

Agreed^^^^

**jjfman** · 03-18-2010, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by hankdiesel

His stats are listed.

his age is not listed though, dont want to be advising what AAS to run to a youngster do we now

**LatissimusaurousRex** · 03-18-2010, 09:10 AM

do you really inject winny ED? I've heard of people doing every 3. IDK i'm just asking.

**alpmaster** · 03-18-2010, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by Brady Johnson

I am going to do a winstrol only cycle. I know most will say to run test with it but im actually looking to add some MPH to my fastball without getting JACKED and huge. I also love sculpting my body into the hard ripped look.

You do realize you can run ~100mg of test per week to retain normal libido and other male functions without getting JACKED (which would further more be determined by your diet).

But I mean if lethargy, crappy mood, and limp-dick go along with your goals of that sculpted hard ripped look that you're striving for, then go ahead.

**redz** · 03-18-2010, 10:34 AM

I think a test only cycle would be a better choice, and yes winstrol needs to be injected daily as it is water based and has a short half life.

**Gaspari1255** · 03-18-2010, 12:04 PM

If you are afraid of injections, then go with Var or Tbol. Although, those should be ran with at least a TRT dose, imo. I love the winstrol benefits, but the back pumps and joint issues are a real bitch. I think Winstrol would do more harm than good for you and your goals. Best of luck.

**TITANIUM** · 03-18-2010, 12:18 PM

I would run Var if you can afford it.

Best

T

**LatissimusaurousRex** · 03-18-2010, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by redz

I think a test only cycle would be a better choice, and yes winstrol needs to be injected daily as it is water based and has a short half life.

is it ever oil-based?

**Brady Johnson** · 03-18-2010, 04:35 PM

Thanks for your input guys. I am 24. I know a few people who gained about 5mph in one cycle which is a legit improvement in this area. As for joints, I am leaving this out of the subject, i understand the possible side effects with this but I am still going to do it. I will take some joint supps.

As for PCT, does it look like it will be enough with just the nolva? And how long do you think i should run this cycle for? I plan on 30 days. 50mg EOD. And starting the Nolva the day after my last shot.

**mad dogs** · 03-18-2010, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Brady Johnson

Thanks for your input guys. I am 24. I know a few people who gained about 5mph in one cycle which is a legit improvement in this area. As for joints, I am leaving this out of the subject, i understand the possible side effects with this but I am still going to do it. I will take some joint supps.

As for PCT, does it look like it will be enough with just the nolva? And how long do you think i should run this cycle for? I plan on 30 days. 50mg EOD. And starting the Nolva the day after my last shot.

wistrol needs to be taken every day man as it has a very short half life ,eod is no good , 8 week cycle would be good and a nolva and clomid pct would be best but you could get away with just nolva .

**Brady Johnson** · 03-18-2010, 05:55 PM

Alright, I will do 50mg ED then. The only thing i worry about is the hassle and pain of the damn shots. Would drinking it totally F me up or not give me gains? For example, what if I injected EOD and just drank it in the days that i dont inject?

**mad dogs** · 03-18-2010, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Brady Johnson

Alright, I will do 50mg ED then. The only thing i worry about is the hassle and pain of the damn shots. Would drinking it totally F me up or not give me gains? For example, what if I injected EOD and just drank it in the days that i dont inject?

you can drink winny no probs but you lose more vi the liver ,why don you just buy oral tabs ? i will nevr inject winny ,too painfull and very prone to getting infections wih warter based gear.

orals man get orals

**B1gDaddy** · 03-18-2010, 06:52 PM

so basiclly winny needs to be taken every day for best results?taking it only on workout days (5-6) a week wouldnt be good then wud it?

**B1gDaddy** · 03-18-2010, 06:54 PM

so basiclly winny needs to be taken every day for best results?taking it only on workout days (4-6) a week wouldnt be good then wud it?

uh sorry double post..

**Brady Johnson** · 03-18-2010, 07:08 PM

Have you had experience with oral winny? And is there a difference between drinking the winny and taking oral winny? I just worry about liver problems taking it oraly...

**Brady Johnson** · 03-18-2010, 07:14 PM

Speaking of liver problems... compared to drinking, are orals way worse for your liver? Is it as bad and risky as everybody makes it out to be? I mean i tend to think that going out and partyin is just as hard on it as taking oral steroids as long as you cycle them.

**lexruger** · 03-18-2010, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by jjfman

his age is not listed though, dont want to be advising what AAS to run to a youngster do we now

haha im surprised you didnt reccomend dbol only

**gymfu** · 03-18-2010, 08:25 PM

uh i'm no expert but i don't think you should use any aas on a "only the days i work out" schedule, and if you dont want to inject buy the orals, but yes they are very hard on your liver, milk thistle will help.