Beer Gut on roids!!!

[michael29]

Hey whats up guys, Im a 29 yr old male 6', 230 lbs. Im useing sus 250 and nanadro phenlyp. So its my first ever cyc, and havent worked out in 2 yrs, " Yes im rocking the beer gut".. Takeing M5 for preworkout and useing Amplify xl protein. Running 3 days a week and doing a 5 day workout program. Question, is the stuff im useing enough or not enough, Do i need more or am i on the right track? Can you guys give me some tips plus other names of stuff i can use with this. Im doing half ml of each for first 3 weeks and going up and then back down in a 10 week period. Is this right? My goal is to loose fat and gain muscle. I need some feed back dudes, Plz help!

[AlphaGenetics]

Let the flames begin...

[michael29]

lol Flame? what flame....

[powerliftmike]

We have several problems here. First you need to diet and take care of your "beer gut". AAS wont do that for you. You need to get back into the gym full time, not training for 2 yrs then going right into AAS is bad and sets you up for injuries. Furthermore, even if it were time to cycle, you have not given us any dosages and no real clear "plan".

[Exilus]

First cycle, beer gut and Havent worked out in 2 years dont go together in the same sentence.

[cobra305]

Good luck you are gonna need it

[c-Z]

So much wrong here my friend.... Please.. Visit the diet section. get on a proper diet.

[cobra305]

You need to get your beer gut in check via cardio and diet first. Then you need to get back in the routine of working out. aas is not a magical solution which will whip you into shape. you must work hard and eat right to truly reap the benefits. do yourself a favor and go tho the diet forum and get yours in check and do some research it will be beneficial. Have u already started? and if so do you have a pct?

[KET317]

There are a lot of vets around here and most of them are a bit tired of seeing the same thing over and over. This is a problem that occurs on many forums, regardless of the topic.

Noone here can give you any advice based on what you posted...from your PCT, your diet, etc.

The search button is the second most effective tool on around this forum...the first being your brain and a smidge of Initiative.

I'll try and help out a bit by posting some links that are pretty critical reads:

PCT
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=255196

DIET
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323516

General First Cycle Overview
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

That should keep you busy for a while.

[michael29]

The diet is right, spend tons of money on the food, eating between 5 to 7 times daily 50 grams of protein each sitting. The cyc consists of.....


1. 1/2 test-1/2 phen Monday
2. same as Monday
3. same on Monday and Thursday
4. same Monday and Thursday
5. 1mL Test on Monday and 1 mL Phen on Monday and Thursday
6. 1mL test on Mon and 1/2 on Thurs 1mL phen on Monday and Thursday
7. 1/2 test on Mon and Thurs 1 phen on Mon and Thurs
8. 1/2 test on Mon and Thurs 1/2 phen on Mon and Thurs
9. 1/2 test on Mon 1 1/2 phen Mon
10. 1/2 and 1/2 Monday
11. 1/2 test Monday

I started the diet and workout 2 weeks prior to this, im on week 3 now. 5 weeks total in the gym. I did start real light and have been gaining streght and definition in the body as i keep going. This is why im comming to the form is for advise.

[cobra305]

That is not very descriptive, half a test what?

[cobra305]

What is your bf?

[michael29]

half sustan250 "test" and nandrolon phenylp. and i dont know my bf, havent had a chace to get it checked yet. Im going to the gym and will post the answer later.

[cobra305]

It is obvious you do not know what you are doing at all. My advice to you is to stop what you are doing hide your gear get educated and in shape and then run your cycle. You will probably not listen to my advice but it is what it is. Good luck.

[michael29]

Thanks ket for the info

[cobra305]

*Meant hide your gear from yourself*

[michael29]

Yea ill admit i really dont have a clue, i have done some research but not much, can you help? pct means?? Ive done a search and found nothing, Hideing is hard i have a box of this shit!

[cobra305]

pct is the most important aspect of running a cycle ket317 posted the link read it all it is essential. It means post cycle therapy, essentially it jumps starts your bodies natural production of test because aas shuts this down.

[c-Z]

Just put the steroids down and walk away. you arent ready

[JScondition]

also having done little research you are extremely vulnerable for being scammed. Who really knows if the box of stuff you have is real. It could be a bunch of vials filled with olive oil that some guy sold you saying, "if you inject this, it will get rid of your beer gut." You are really putting yourself in danger in more ways than one without reading into this stuff.

Don't mean to scare you, but sometimes its necessary.

[michael29]

lol @ js thanks for the info but im 100% sure its the real deal...and its not like some hobo hooked me up with thousands of dollars of this stuff. oxi labs everything was sealed and from the looks of it only after 10 days of working out its real...but ne ways, thanks for the url's i read up on what pct actually means and im glad bc i had no idea... Now i do. Thanks. Also Beer Gut is overrated. 6' 230, im about 20 lbs over weight. and droping the weight fast with cardio. Thnks guys for what help u actually gave me and not shutting me down and telling me im an complete idiot!

[AlphaGenetics]

Your obv. set on doing this. Look into getting on an ai during cycle, your gonna be gyno prone being overweight and the ai will help keep your estrogen down. If your nipples start to itch, thats gyno starting. You really should research more before cycling. Gyno never goes away. Gyno is when you grow boobs and get painfull lumps under your nipples that could leak. gl

[michael29]

Thanks Alpha, yes my mind is set and once again thats why i am here for advise from the pros, i understand and will admit i did not fully research this but at the same time this website is full of execellant info. My goal here is to gain as much info as possiable and convert it to my own exp. Im a Union IrowWorker, how many of them have u seen with a beer gut???

[XLR8now]

do your homework first. I am new and have spent the last week digesting so much info... Otherwise, you will short-chage yourself at best and endager yourself at worst.

[michael29]

ok so should i take the serm at the same time or should i wait until after the cycle is done? And can you provide a good site where i can purchase these products?

[redz]

NPP needs to be shot ed or eod at the minimum and sustanon should be shot eod as well.

[jordann]

This is a disaster.

[michael29]

Disaster how so?

[JinNtonic]

Oh boi

[JScondition]

I think what jordann means is you just need to do some more planning... so you're in the right place for getting info, you just shouldn't start until you have everything written out.

I like to just type out my cycle... dosages, when to pin, what to pin in which week, when to start pct, etc. This is just an easy way of keeping organized. This can also be used as a check list to make sure you have everything you need for the whole cycle (nothing sucks more than almost getting to the end of a cycle and running out of a compound you thought you had enough of). But from what you say I dont think you will have a problem with that.

My advice to you, and I'm sure I am not alone on this is:
1) Stop your cycle if you have started. If you are more than 2 weeks into it get some pct from ar-r and run them (if you aren't sure of the doses just make another thread explaining your situation and I'm sure someone will help you out, or you can search for it).
2) Get your diet in check and lose some weight without the help of AAS. The better shape you are when you finally start using AAS the better your gains will be when you finally go on cycle.
3) Continue to do research on this forum. You will be surprised how much you can learn in reading a couple threads per day. You need to make sure you know what you are taking( so you know the half-life of the compounds, how much to take per week, what sides to look for, what results you can expect, etc.), how to inject if you are injecting (will be very confusing if you are new to injections so read up, need to know where to inject so you don't hit a nerve or vein, what size needles to get the best absorption, etc.) Also need to know how to eat and train during and after your cycle to maximize your gains. There is so much more that you will need to figure out, but these are some big things. You will probably learn so much in the first couple of weeks that you will look back on this thread and want to kick yourself for making some of the rookie mistakes you have done so far (not trying to be rude... we were all there at one point in time).
4) Start planning out your cycle... write it down. Then make sure you have all your supplies (pins, compounds, pct!!!!!!!!(never start a cycle without having pct... you will royally f yourself up), stuff that you will need incase sides pop up, etc.)

After doing all this and more thennnnn you may be ready for AAS.... keep in mind that this can take up to a year to plan out your cycle and get your body ready for it (lose enough weight/get diet in check). You have to be patient.

If you do decided that you don't want to do this and just go ahead with what you are doing now, then you are welcome to do so. People will help you with dosing and everything else, but keep in mind you will probably lose all of your gains, you will be wasting a lot of time and money, and most importantly you will be hurting your body.

best of luck to you we are all here to help

[michael29]

thanks man. youve been lots of help!

[ty357]

Just put the steroids down and walk away. you arent ready

I agree c-Z. What is pct dude cmon

[biggerguns]

Disaster and a waste of money indeed. How sad.

[michael29]

yea im novice to this so i guess im intittled to be made fun of? Yes i should researched more b4 i came here for advise...my bad. Now im understanding what pct means and went to arr and purchse some lex, and will be posting more threads on correct dosages. In the mean time i will continue with my cycle even if its frowned upon...and for the 2nd quote, Money isnt an issue bro....

[lovbyts]

The diet is right, spend tons of money on the food, eating between 5 to 7 times daily 50 grams of protein each sitting. The cyc consists of.....


1. 1/2 test-1/2 phen Monday
2. same as Monday
3. same on Monday and Thursday
4. same Monday and Thursday
5. 1mL Test on Monday and 1 mL Phen on Monday and Thursday
6. 1mL test on Mon and 1/2 on Thurs 1mL phen on Monday and Thursday
7. 1/2 test on Mon and Thurs 1 phen on Mon and Thurs
8. 1/2 test on Mon and Thurs 1/2 phen on Mon and Thurs
9. 1/2 test on Mon 1 1/2 phen Mon
10. 1/2 and 1/2 Monday
11. 1/2 test Monday

I started the diet and workout 2 weeks prior to this, im on week 3 now. 5 weeks total in the gym. I did start real light and have been gaining streght and definition in the body as i keep going. This is why im comming to the form is for advise.

Good, stick with it, keep working out and eating right and forget about the cycle for at least a year.

99.99% of everyone who do what you are doing (start diet, training and AAS) FAIL. You are doing it all wrong.

Diet, workout, get in the best shape you have ever been in naturally for at least one year, preferable 2 or 3 then consider aas and you will be happy with your results. If not I would bet in a year you will be the same as you are now or worse.

If money is no issue to you then please send it to me. You are/will only be throwing it away anyways if you decide to do a cycle anytime soon.