stuck on what cycle to go with here......

[mgs83]

i know ive posted a few threads regarding a-dex or nolva while on cycle, and hcg cycling and what not, but based on everyones great feedback, i literally have been doing so much research and trying to see what would in fact be the best meds for me to take both while on cycle and for PCT. I think for PCT it pretty much boils down to clomid/nolva (40/20/20/20-100/50/50/50)- sounds good? i need some final decision making input from you senior guys. here are my questions that once i get answers to will finally let me burry the hatchet per say on this issue ive been having

1.) while ON CYCLE, would you take an AI such as a-dex EOD at .25mg? or would you take a different AI or SERM? what would work best?

2.) SInce i am running a 12 week cycle of test-e 250mg 2X week, would HCG be more beneficial for me to run the last week 4 weeks of cycle at 250ius 2X week? Since i am already taking an AI i would just incorporate the HCG the last month.

3.) Once my cycle is done (last injection) would i still do HCG up untill PCT starts, so another 14 days of 250ius 2X week with .25 a-dex EOD?

4.) Would HCG just be better to do my whole cycle at 250ius 2X week while using a-dex OR nolva? which is better to use, cause some guys have said bolva, some a-dex.

if i can get some help with these question, it will definetely let me make my final decision whne i start my cycle

STATS:
Age:26
Weight:217lbs
BF% 16-17%
Height: 6'0
clean diet, i am cutting now, naturally, no gear. I am taking in about 2100-2500cals/day. I have lost about 30 pounds in 3 months time. I was never fat, just needed to lean up.

[BJJ]

i know ive posted a few threads regarding a-dex or nolva while on cycle, and hcg cycling and what not, but based on everyones great feedback, i literally have been doing so much research and trying to see what would in fact be the best meds for me to take both while on cycle and for PCT. I think for PCT it pretty much boils down to clomid/nolva (40/20/20/20-100/50/50/50)- sounds good? i need some final decision making input from you senior guys. here are my questions that once i get answers to will finally let me burry the hatchet per say on this issue ive been having

1.) while ON CYCLE, would you take an AI such as a-dex EOD at .25mg? or would you take a different AI or SERM? what would work best? why taking an AI if you do not know how your organism will react on exogenous testosterone?

2.) SInce i am running a 12 week cycle of test-e 250mg 2X week, would HCG be more beneficial for me to run the last week 4 weeks of cycle at 250ius 2X week? Since i am already taking an AI i would just incorporate the HCG the last month. i would wait and see your organism reaction since you may not even experience shrinkage.

3.) Once my cycle is done (last injection) would i still do HCG up untill PCT starts, so another 14 days of 250ius 2X week with .25 a-dex EOD? it depends if you started HCG during your cycle, at the very beginning or in the last 2 weeks.

4.) Would HCG just be better to do my whole cycle at 250ius 2X week while using a-dex OR nolva? which is better to use, cause some guys have said bolva, some a-dex. i would, in case, use nolva as a first option. if not enough, you can use an AI.

if i can get some help with these question, it will definetely let me make my final decision whne i start my cycle

STATS:
Age:26
Weight:217lbs
BF% 16-17%
Height: 6'0
clean diet, i am cutting now, naturally, no gear. I am taking in about 2100-2500cals/day. I have lost about 30 pounds in 3 months time. I was never fat, just needed to lean up.

Your bf is a bit too high.

[mgs83]

hey BJJ, reason y i was thinking of taking a-dex while on cycle was just to keep myself from getting bloated or retaining water, i know that AI, essence keep you dry while on cycle, making my bodies estrogen level not get to high where i COULD maybe get gyno.....but i feel it is better to be preventative that have to deal with gyno when you start getting it, by then its already to late dont u think? What would you think i should get my body fat% down to before i cycle? can i not cycle now? what would happen?

[lexruger]

higher bf = higher chance of estro related sides hence the additon of the adex

[BJJ]

hey BJJ, reason y i was thinking of taking a-dex while on cycle was just to keep myself from getting bloated or retaining water, i know that AI, essence keep you dry while on cycle, making my bodies estrogen level not get to high where i COULD maybe get gyno.....but i feel it is better to be preventative that have to deal with gyno when you start getting it, by then its already to late dont u think? What would you think i should get my body fat% down to before i cycle? can i not cycle now? what would happen?

Your considerations can have a meaning taking into account your actual bf.
Going down to 12/13%, would change everything.

[BJJ]

higher bf = higher chance of estro related sides hence the additon of the adex

...x2

[mgs83]

12-13% huh? let me ask you, if you were on a cutting diet, what would you typically take in calorie wise to get yourself down? i mean right now i am getting down there, but perhaps you can give me a suggestion? would you advise me not to cycle while having a BF% of 16-18%? probably not huh? if i did, definitely take the a-dex?

[BJJ]

12-13% huh? let me ask you, if you were on a cutting diet, what would you typically take in calorie wise to get yourself down? i mean right now i am getting down there, but perhaps you can give me a suggestion? would you advise me not to cycle while having a BF% of 16-18%? probably not huh? if i did, definitely take the a-dex?

I would not cycle at 16/18%, simple.
Go down with a proper diet, in case you can get helped by ephedrine itself or ECA.

[mgs83]

i would take ephedrine, but there are not many products out there that do have ephedrine in them are there? i know xenedrine used to, but i dont think they have that any longer... ya i think you are correct BJJ, i do want to get the BF% down first, and i am asking questions in the dieting section, i hve issues with dieting, not that i eat bad food, i dont take in enough, and not sure how to space them all out according to what i actaully need i.e. %fats, %carbs, %proteins...

[BJJ]

i would take ephedrine, but there are not many products out there that do have ephedrine in them are there? i know xenedrine used to, but i dont think they have that any longer... ya i think you are correct BJJ, i do want to get the BF% down first, and i am asking questions in the dieting section, i hve issues with dieting, not that i eat bad food, i dont take in enough, and not sure how to space them all out according to what i actaully need i.e. %fats, %carbs, %proteins...

Look, I really do not have much time now to go deeper in details but to keep it simple you need to calculate you BMR and you daily Kcalories based on your daily activities.
Then, reduce your total Kcalories intake in order to burn each day 350 Kcal more in comparison to what you ingested (based on your stats).
Eat enough protein using your body weight in pounds * 1,5.
Work-out to keep your muscles active and train cardio at least 3 times per week for no less than 40' but no more than 60' @ 70% rate.
Use this simple chart, use only low gi carbs and stay around 0,7/0,8 ratio between protides and glucides.

http://diet.zone.massamagra.com/ZoneCalculatorGRAMS.htm (g)
http://diet.zone.massamagra.com/Zone...atorOUNCES.htm (oz)