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    New Cycle Please Critique

    Hey guys, got everything ready to roll.
    Stats: 3 years competing, done about everything from slin to var
    Start: 195 about 12%bf

    Test E: 1000mgs weeks 1-16
    Deca : 600mgs weeks 1-15
    Tren A: 450mgs weeks 6-16
    Adex: 1mg EOD weeks 1-16
    HGH: 10ius 5/2 straight through for about 9 months

    What you fellas think? Anything to add/subtract/modify?
    Will have nolva on hand just in case
    Thanks

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    bump guys, any input?

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    height?

    what pct? or are you on trt?

    what is the goal of this cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eljugo16 View Post
    Hey guys, got everything ready to roll.
    Stats: 3 years competing, done about everything from slin to var
    Start: 195 about 12%bf

    Test E: 1000mgs weeks 1-16
    Deca : 600mgs weeks 1-15
    Tren A: 450mgs weeks 6-16
    Adex: 1mg EOD weeks 1-16
    HGH: 10ius 5/2 straight through for about 9 months

    What you fellas think? Anything to add/subtract/modify?
    Will have nolva on hand just in case
    Thanks
    This cycle could wake the dead.hehe.

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    you will be a walking pharmacy with all that juice flowing through you bro!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eljugo16 View Post
    Test E: 1000mgs weeks 1-16
    Deca : 600mgs weeks 1-14
    Tren A: 450mgs weeks 8-18
    Adex: 0.5mg/ed weeks 1-16
    HGH: 10ius 5/2 straight through for about 9 months
    The bold = the modifications I would make. I like to stop my deca two weeks before the conclusion of my test; I guess what I'm wondering though, is are you on TRT? If you are on HRT could just stay on the deca till the 15 - 16 week as you first proposed.

    I would run the Tren-Ace all the way up to PCT (IE) week 18

    I prefer to split my a-dex into smaller dosages (IE) 0.5mg/ed as opposed to a high 1mg/eod. That's personal though, if 1mg/eod has worked for you in the past then stick to it. Gyno prevention is a very individualistic aspect of steroid use IMO.

    Only thing I might change is throwing a DHT-derivative into the mix. But honestly, it looks like you've got enough compounds in there currently. Not to mention tren can harden/cut you up just as well as any of them IMO

    Looks like a great cycle. I wish I could afford 10iu/ed GH, I've seen people completely transform their physiques w/ dosages like that.

    -VM

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    i would definately like to see a before and after picture with that cycle. will look like one of them "i got ripped in 3 weeks" pop ups al over the net nowadays. maybe make a blog cause im well curious

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    Phate: the goal of this cycle is to put on a solid 10pounds of competition muscle and pardon my ignorance, what is trt? pct will include hcg , nolva and considering throwing aromasin in not sure yet.

    V-Man: I was debating on the deca and yes it makes complete sense. I got a great price on the gh and i'v heard wonders of people using 8ius and up so i want to see what happends.

    panntastic: i will post weekly here and let you guys know weight, bf%, how i feel, look etc.

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    Gear, Markus, Pt any suggestions? I might run t3 at 25mcg ed for about 12 weeks

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    I would not use the Deca and Tren in same cycle. Use either one by itself weeks 1-14. I would use Deca for that long of a cycle over Tren A.

    Keep Caber and Aromasin on hand save the Nolva and use it for pct.

    Instead of Tren at the end try Winny or Anavar for last six weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eljugo16 View Post
    I might run t3 at 25mcg ed for about 12 weeks
    I'm a big fan of utilizing a low dosage of T3 will on a bulking cycle. 25 - 40mcg/ed would be completely fine.

    HRT / TRT - testosterone or hormone replacement therapy.

    -VM

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    Quote Originally Posted by glover View Post
    I would not use the Deca and Tren in same cycle. Use either one by itself weeks 1-14. I would use Deca for that long of a cycle over Tren A.

    Keep Caber and Aromasin on hand save the Nolva and use it for pct.

    Instead of Tren at the end try Winny or Anavar for last six weeks.
    Hey bro, whats the reasoning behind not using deca and tren together? I have both caber and aromasin on hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    I'm a big fan of utilizing a low dosage of T3 will on a bulking cycle. 25 - 40mcg/ed would be completely fine.

    HRT / TRT - testosterone or hormone replacement therapy.

    -VM
    Thanks for the info. Yea I'v ran it from 25-37.5mcgs ed and it kept me tight enough even when on high cal, also gh drops t3 levels for I figure shoot 2 birds with one stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eljugo16 View Post
    Phate: the goal of this cycle is to put on a solid 10pounds of competition muscle and pardon my ignorance, what is trt? pct will include hcg , nolva and considering throwing aromasin in not sure yet.

    V-Man: I was debating on the deca and yes it makes complete sense. I got a great price on the gh and i'v heard wonders of people using 8ius and up so i want to see what happends.

    panntastic: i will post weekly here and let you guys know weight, bf%, how i feel, look etc.
    trt= testosterone replacement therapy

    pct might need to be strengthened a little

    since you are running 10iu/d of HGH are you going to throw insulin in there as well?

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    There are a couple of thoughs regarding running two 19-sor together. I personally wont do it but a few vets do run deca /tren together. Like I said I wouldnt do it but its up to you. Also keep the tren the way you had it, I would rather have the tren out of my system and have test running at least 1-2 weeks longer then you can start your PCT based on which test you run with it.
    Have you ran tren before? How tall are you and how old are you?

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    Phate: I was considering running slin. I have about 10mls of humalog on hand. The reasoning I'm still debating it it because I blew up last time off it and am trying to stay relatively lean (at least 8%) till at least september since I have a few photoshoots coming up in july. I'v heard drastically increasing your protein intake and decreasing your carb intake (about 4 grams per iu) that one can get pretty good results and stay lean. Any input/experience with that?

    Rana: Yes, I going to stop the tren at least a week before the end of it. I will most likely keep the test e the whole time since I dont hold that much water with it but I do have about 6000mgs of prop on hand. I have tren before at 300mgs/wk with very good results.
    I am 5'9 and 25. Planning on doing the junior nationals next year and want to top out in the light heavy class.

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    I disagree about the running deca and tren together.

    Do it. They work well together.

    Combined they do not equal more sides or an increased chance of sides

    I agree with Vitruvian Man about when to stop the deca, and tren.

    except id be sure to stop the Tren a few Days before your PCT. to make sure its out and it wont hold back your recovery during pct

    not sure if you stated, i may of read over it. but is this a contest prep cycle? bulking? cutting. etc

    other then that... looks good

    oh and also did you stat how many previous cycles youve done>?

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    Thanks for the reply. What im trying to accomplish with this cycle is put on as much LEAN muscle as possible. I want to top out in the light heavy class at the junior nationals next year but I have a few photo shoots in july and late aug so I need to stay within 7-9% bf.
    I have been competing for over three years and have pretty much cycled everything in the book.
    Also, any input on running slin with it? I will also be taking t3 and clens throughout

    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    I disagree about the running deca and tren together.

    Do it. They work well together.

    Combined they do not equal more sides or an increased chance of sides

    I agree with Vitruvian Man about when to stop the deca, and tren.

    except id be sure to stop the Tren a few Days before your PCT. to make sure its out and it wont hold back your recovery during pct

    not sure if you stated, i may of read over it. but is this a contest prep cycle? bulking? cutting. etc

    other then that... looks good

    oh and also did you stat how many previous cycles youve done>?

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