First cycle oral

[aeRoN]

Greetings, my name is aeRoNz and on the beforehand i'll give you some stats


I'm training for 3 years now, my height is 186 cm, I weigh 97.6 kg of with the last 8 kg was done in 3 months (on a cutting diet ;p). My bf is roughly 15% (with calipers) and I tend to do my first cycle.

Me and my mate made the deal that it would be oral first, to see how we feel and can maintain our diet with this feeling. I'm not going to post my diet but its a steady 2600-3000kcal since i'm cutting atm (with clean foods and good supplements)

I know how to train and I know how to gain, people at my fitness ask me if i'm on cycle.

So my thought for this summer were the following:

Wk 1-5 30mg winny ed
Wk 6-10 50mg var ed

Now my questions to you are:

- is the dose allright?
- to livertoxic? (if you can post some good liver maintenance tips like supps and when to take 'em i'd really apreciate it, if you find that I should search the forum more, just say nothing and I will ).
-and if you could help me with pct; i was first thinking about six weeks var only and would've done two weeks of nolva 20mg ed, but I got the tip with winstrol so how should I adjust this?


If more questions pop up, i'll re-ask in this same thread, so keep it on the watch!


Thanks on advance

[G4R]

Horrible cycle.

What is your age?
You should also drop that BF%
What are your goals?

[aeRoN]

Horrible cycle.

What is your age?
You should also drop that BF%
What are your goals?

-22

my goal is to experience it, and get lower in bf and more 'dry'.

I'd appreciate any tips, so saying it's horrible is fine, but give some comment on why.

grtz

[G4R]

-22
Still a little to young IMO

my goal is to experience it, and get lower in bf and more 'dry'.
These are your only reasons for wanting to use steroids?

I'd appreciate any tips, so saying it's horrible is fine, but give some comment on why.
What do you know about those two compounds?

grtz

If you will, please read this thread very carefully:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398146

[lovbyts]

Most here are not in favor of oral only due to the limited gains and yes hard on the liver. Im not in favor of it either.

What you are proposing is probably as harsh as others but still not good idea. Read up on the beginner cycle.

For liver protection #1 lots of water, also milkthistle and liv52 are good combination.

Do you have a planned PCT?
clomid + nolva

Good advise given above.

[lifterjaydawg]

definitely get clomid and nolva for your pct, ar-r board sponsor, and for liver protection you could try UDCA, I think it works better than milk thistle or liv 52.