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    Thumbs up TESTOSTERONE SUSPENSION Cycle (rHGH, TEST P, EQ, OXANDROLONE, MESTEROLONE)

    PLEASE NOTE

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    Steroids and anabolic steroids do have side effects. Do not be fooled into thinking there is a perfect steroid out there. That is not true. All steroids carry some type of side effects in one form or another. There is no such thing as a side effect free steroid. There are many side effects of using any medical treatment, including steroids. Here are some things an athlete might experience through the use of steroids:

    • Your body wants to maintain a balance of hormones, so by undertaking a steroid regimen will send a signal to your body to shut down its own natural hormonal production. The levels of inhibition vary depending on the type of hormone ingested and most often, but not always, the endogenous hormone production resumes after the athlete stops his/her steroid regimen.

    • The liver can be affected with orally ingested steroids . This means that studies have shown the levels of liver enzymes to increase after ingesting oral steroids which is an indication of liver activity. While some experts say that this is a sign of possible liver damage, other studies have shown that enzyme levels return to normal when the athlete stops taking the steroids.

    • Steroids can affect levels of cholesterol. Athletes who use steroids show increased levels of LDL’s (the “bad” cholesterol) and decreased levels of HDL’s (the “good” cholesterol). This may also explain why anabolic steroids have been linked to cardiovascular problems.

    Anabolic steroids increase the levels of estrogen in the body which can lead to female-like breast tissue in males. However, there are anti-estrogen drugs that can help reduce this risk. Likewise, females who use anabolic steroids might begin to develop male characteristics such as hirsuitism or deepening of the voice, as well as clitoris enlargement.

    • Athletes who use anabolic steroids might also experience increased acne; this is often related to the type and amount of steroids used.

    • One of the most commonly suspected side effects of steroids use is increased aggressiveness. This is a real but rare side effect of steroids use; in fact most studies show that this increased aggressiveness or sometimes mania is more prevalent in people who were aggressive to begin with.

    • There are other effects on internal organs (caused by the types and doses of steroids as well as the effects of the exercise/training regimen that goes along with trying to “bulk” or “cut”) that are often reversed at the cessation of steroids use. These include enlarged prostate, high blood pressure, kidney problems and changes in the immune system.

    • Sterility is also a possible side effect as the hormones in the body are altered during use of anabolic steroids. This can often be reversed or remedied with proper hormone treatments.

    Some steroids will stop the growth of people who use them before they have finished growing. This is one of the few side effects that cannot be reversed through stopping a steroid regimen.
    • Always remember, effects of steroids are very serious. Users do experience bad and negative side effects, so be warned! Do your own researches.
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    1st Cycle: ANAVAR Cycle (for those interested)

    BULKING (11/03/2010 - 16/08/2010)
    Week 1-2 Testosterone Propionate [UG] 70 mg ed (ttl 630 mg) [Morning] {Ethyl Oleate}
    Week 1-11 Mesterolone [PG] 100 mg ed (ttl 7700 mg) [Breakfast/Dinner]
    Week 2 Boldenone Undecylenate [UG] 500 mg ew (ttl 750 mg) [Thursday, Sunday] {Arachis Oil}
    Week 2-11 Testosterone Suspension [UG] 80 mg ed (ttl 5360 mg) [Morning/Evening] {Water}
    Week 4-11 Oxandrolone [UG] 70 mg ed (ttl 3920 mg) [Breakfast/Lunch]
    Week 10-19 Somatropin [PG/UG] 8 iu ed (ttl 560 iu) [Morning/Night, 7/7]
    Week 14-19 L-Thyroxine [PG] 100 mcg ed (4200 mcg) [Night]
    PCT (27/05/2010 - 21/07/2010)
    Week 12-15 Clomiphene Citrate [PG] 100/100/100/50 mg ed (ttl 2450 mg) [Breakfast]
    Week 12-17 Tamoxifen Citrate [PG] 40/20/30/30/20/20 mg ed (ttl 1120 mg) [Breakfast]
    Week 15 Chorionic Gonadotrophin [PG] 500 iu ed (ttl 3500 iu) [Morning]
    Week 15 Exemestane [UG] 25 mg eod (ttl 100 mg) [Morning]
    Week 18-19 Glutathione [PG] 600 mg ed (ttl 8400 mg) [Morning]

    IUPAC:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=439055

    DIET:
    BMR: 2.036 Kcal
    Daily Diet (3.378 Kcal): 320 g of Protides, 50 g of Lipides, 412 g of Glucides
    Protides/Glucides Relation: 0,77
    Supplements: Multi Vitamins/Minerals, EFA complex, ALA, Lactobacillus Casei DG, Acetyl L-Carnitine, Coenzyme Q10, Glutamine, BCAA, Glucosamine, Chondroitin Sulfate, Glycine, l-Arginine, Alpha-Ketoisocaproic Acid Calcium.

    STRENGTH (8 reps):____________________________________________ Day 78
    Squat (legs) 120 kg (264 lbs)________________________________________150 kg (330 lbs) +25%
    Dead Lift (legs) 90 kg (198 lbs)_______________________________________120 kg (264 lbs) +33%
    One Arm Dumbbell Row (back) 40 kg (88 lbs)____________________________50 kg (110 lbs) +25%
    Bench Press with Dumbbells (chest) 36 kg (79 lbs) each__________________44 kg (97 lbs) +22%
    Military Press with Dumbbells (shoulders) 30 kg (66 lbs) each______________36 kg (79 lbs) +20%
    Dumbbells Curls (biceps - seated) 28 kg (61 lbs) each____________________32 kg (70 lbs) +14%
    Dumbbells Curls (triceps - lying down) 22 kg (48 lbs) each________________26 kg (57 lbs) +18%

    Strength Acquisition: 22% estimate
    Formula: (current-previous)/previous*100 = (+) increase% or (-) decrease%

    STATS:___________________________________Day 21_________________________Day 35__________________________Day 52__________________________Day 78
    36 Years Old, 187 cm (6'2" ft)
    Body Weight: 93,8 kg (206 lbs)__________________95,7 kg (210 lbs) +2,02%________100 kg (220 lbs) +6,61%__________100 kg (220 lbs)__________________101,4 kg (223 lbs) +8,1%
    Body Fat: 13%________________________________13%___________________________14% +7,69%____________________13%_____________________________12,5% -3,84%
    Body Water: 63,7%____________________________62,5% -1,88%__________________62% -2,74%____________________63,3% -0,63%____________________64,2% +0,78%

    Lean Body Mass Acquisition (LBM): 8,1 kg (17,82 lbs)
    New Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR): 2.145 Kcal
    Complete Bulking Log: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...07#post5216307
    Complete PCT Log: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...83#post5274383
    After Cycle Photos: Please Guess my Body Fat Percentage

    BLOOD WORK, URINE, FAECES & SPERM ANALYSES:
    __________________________________________________ _________________Day 38_______________Day 89 p12__________Day 93 p16__________Day 101 p24__________Day 120 p43__________Day 128 p51

    BLOOD
    ERYTHROCYTES: 5,08 mil/mmc [4 - 5,5]______________________________________4,65_________________5,33____________________________________5,08______________________________________5,38
    LEUCOCYTES: 7,6 mila/mmc [4 - 9]__________________________________________14,4_________________7,5_____________________________________9,3_______________________________________8,1
    - NE: 4,2 / 55,9 % [2 - 6 / 37 - 80]
    - LY: 2,5 / 35 % [0,6 - 36 / 10 - 50]
    - MO: 0,7 / 8,7 % [0 - 0,9 / 0 - 12]
    - EO: 0,3 / 2,5 % [0 - 7 / 0 - 7]
    - BA: 0 / 0,6 % [0 - 0,2 / 0 - 2,5]
    HEMOGLOBIN: 15,1 gr/dl [14 - 18]___________________________________________13,2_________________13,7____________________________________13,1______________________________________14,3
    HEMATOCRIT: 44,2 % [42 - 52]_____________________________________________39,8_________________41,5____________________________________39,8______________________________________43,1
    MCV: 87 femtol [82 - 98]__________________________________________________85,6_________________77,9____________________________________78,3_______________________________________80,1
    MCH: 29,7 picogr. [27 - 31]________________________________________________28,4_________________25,7____________________________________25,8______________________________________26,6
    MCHC: 34,2 gr/dl [32 - 36]_________________________________________________33,2_________________33_____________________________________32,9_______________________________________33,2
    RDW: 13,7 % [11,6 - 16]__________________________________________________ _____________________16,2
    GRAN-NEUTROPHILS: 65,7 % [37 -80]________________________________________76,4_________________43,2____________________________________51,7______________________________________42
    GRAN-EOSINOPHILS: 2,8 % [0 - 7]___________________________________________0,5__________________1,6_____________________________________1,3_______________________________________1,5
    GRAN-BASOPHILS: 0,9 % [0 - 2,5]___________________________________________0,8__________________0,3_____________________________________1_________________________________________0,5
    LYMPHOCYTES: 23,4 % [10 - 50]____________________________________________16__________________48______________________________________36,5______________________________________47,9
    MONOCYTES: 7,2 % [0 - 12]_______________________________________________6,3__________________6,9_____________________________________9,5_______________________________________8,1
    PLATELETS: 150000 /mmc [150000 - 400000]_________________________________362000______________270000_________________________________148000____________________________________152000
    PCT: 0,13 % [0,1 - 1]
    MPV: 7,5 fl [5 - 10]
    PDW: 17,5 % [12 - 18]

    HEART, KIDNEYS, LIVER, PANCREAS & PROSTATE
    GLY***IA (basal): 91 mg/dl [70 - 110]__________________________________________________ _________92______________________________________83________________________________________85
    QUICK PROTHROMBIN TIME: 13,7 s
    PROTHROMBIN ACTIVITY: 71 % [70 - 130]
    INR: 1,2
    APTT: 28 s
    FIBRINOGEN: 190 mg/dl [180 - 350]
    HOMOCYSTEINE: 11 mcmoli/l [6 - 15]
    MYOGLOBIN: 27 ng/ml [10 - 46]
    AZOTEMIA: 62 mg/dl [15 - 40]______________________________________________46___________________73__________________________________________________ _____________________________54
    CREATININE: 1,1 mg/dl [0,8 - 1,3]__________________________________________1,2___________________1,1
    HYPERURI***IA: 6 mg/dl [3,5 - 7,2]
    CHOLESTEROL TTL: 156 mg/dl [140 - 220]___________________________________142___________________173__________________________________________________ ______135
    CHOLESTEROL VLDL: 35 mg/dl [20 - 40]
    CHOLESTEROL LDL: 103 mg/dl [<150]_______________________________________130
    CHOLESTEROL HDL: 35 mg/dl [>40]_________________________________________12___________________22__________________________________________________ ________30
    INDEX RISK HDL: 4,5 [till 5]________________________________________________11,8_________________7,9__________________________________________________ _______4,5
    APO A1: 190 mg/dl [115 - 220]
    APO B: 79 mg/dl [55 - 125]
    RATIO B/A1 APO: 0,41 [0,35 - 1]
    TRIGLYCERIDES: 90 mg/dl [<150]
    GAMMA (YGT): 32 u/ltr [15 - 85]___________________________________________27___________________39__________________________________________________ ______________________________38
    ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE: 96 u/ltr [50 - 136]_________________________________57___________________79
    BILIRUBIN TTL: 1 mg/dl [0,2 - 1]__________________________________________________ ____________________________________1,16
    BILIRUBIN DIRECT: 0,25 mg/dl [0,05 - 0,3]__________________________________________________ ____________________________0,33
    BILIRUBIN INDIRECT: 0,67 mg/dl [till 0,7]__________________________________________________ _____________________________0,83
    TRANSAMINASE GOT/AST: 26 u/ltr [15 - 37]__________________________________63
    TRANSAMINASE GPT/ALT: 62 u/ltr [30 - 65]__________________________________104
    FERRITIN: 125 ng/ml [24 - 336]
    LIPASE: 324 u/ltr [73 - 393]_______________________________________________234__________________218__________________________________________________ ____________________________174
    AMYLASE: 69 u/ltr [25 - 115]______________________________________________66___________________75
    LDH: 170 u/ltr [100 - 190]
    CPK MB: 230 u/ltr [35 - 232]
    CK NAK: 160 u/l [till 167]
    PROTIDES TTL: 7,5 gr/dl [6,4 - 8,2]
    ALBUMIN: 60 % [51 - 63,3]
    ALFA 1: 3 % [2,2 - 4,3]
    ALFA 2: 10 % [9,5 - 14]
    BETA: 11 % [10 - 14,5]
    GAMMA: 19 % [12 - 20]
    A/G RATIO: 1,45 [1,0 - 1,7]
    PSA: 0,6 ng/ml [till 4]__________________________________________________ ___1,23________________0,61
    PSA FREE: 0,23
    PSA FREE/TTL: 0,38 [>0,15]
    PAP: 1,3 ng/ml [till 3,5]__________________________________________________ _1,5
    IGG: 1455 mg/dl [681 - 1648]
    IGA: 309 mg/dl [87 - 474]
    IGD: 55 u/ml [till 100]
    IGM: 101 mg/dl [48 - 312]
    IGE (prist): 39,07 iu/ml [1,31 - 165,3]

    INFECTIVITY & ALLERGOLOGY
    HIV-Ab (1+2): 0,15 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
    HCV-Ab: 0,12 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
    HBS-Ag: 0,35 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
    HAV-Ab (IgT): >85 react miu/ml [<35]
    HAV-Ab (IgM): 0,07 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
    TAS: 111 ui/ml [0 - 166]
    VDRL: negative [negative]
    CRP: 2 mg/dl [till 5]
    REUMA TEST: <20 iu/ml [<20]
    ESR: 6 mm/h [till 15]
    LYSOZYME: 9 picog/ml [4 - 13]
    ACE: 10 mcg/l [6 - 12]
    RAST Egg: 0,1 [<0,3]
    RAST Yolk: 0,1 [<0,3]
    RAST Crayfish: 0,1 [<0,3]
    RAST Yeast: 0,1 [<0,3]
    RAST Pork: 0,1 [<0,3]
    RAST Fish Mix: 0,1 [<0,3]
    RAST Olea Europaea Pollen: 0,1 [<0,3]

    VITAMINS & ELECTROLYTES
    VITAMIN A: 630 mcg/l [300 - 650]
    VITAMIN E: 15,6 mg/ltr [5 - 20]
    VITAMIN C: 1,1 mg/ml [0,5 - 1,5]
    VITAMIN B12: 697 pg/ml [179 - 1162]
    VITAMIN D3: 42 ng/ml [10 - 45]
    VITAMIN H: 85 ng/ml [70 - 100]
    VITAMIN K: 25 mcg/ml [15 - 30]
    VITAMIN PP: 0,7 mg/ml [0,5 - 0,8]
    SODIUM: 143 meq/l [136 - 145]__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________140
    POTASSIUM: 4,5 meq/l [3,5 - 5,1]
    CALCIUM: 9,4 mg/dl [8,5 - 10,1]
    MAGNESIUM: 2,1 mg/dl [1,8 - 2,4]
    PHOSPHORUS: 3,8 mg/dl [2,7 - 4,5]
    IRON: 147 mcg/dl [35 - 150]
    ZINC: 101 mcg/dl [80 - 125]
    CHLORINE: 105 meq/l [98 - 107]
    COPPER: 111 ku/l [76 - 153]

    HORMONAL
    GASTRIN: 32 pg/ml [28 - 125]
    MELATONIN: 55 pg/ml [20 - 85]
    C-PEPTIDE: 1,3 ng/ml [0,78 – 1,89]
    INSULIN : 3,37 micru/ml [1,9 - 23]__________________________________________________ _____________3,55____________________________________2,08______________________________________5,54
    GLUCAGON: 56 pg/ml [40 - 130]
    ACTH: 21 pg/dl [till 50]
    CORTISOL: 16,64 mcg/dl [8,7 - 22,4]_________________________________________12,45______________19,89___________________________________17,4
    TSH: 4,79 micru/ml [0,34 - 5,6]______________________________________________2,48_______________2,66____________________________________4,37_______________________________________1,65
    FT3: 3,47 pg/ml [2,2 - 4,7]_________________________________________________3,95________________4,03____________________________________2,83______________________________________4,15
    FT4: 1,27 ng/dl [0,8 - 2]__________________________________________________ _1,62_______________1,4_____________________________________1,33_______________________________________1,49
    MSH: 10,5 pmol/l [7,9 - 14,4]
    TG: 9,65 ng/ml [0 - 35]
    TBG: 21 mcg/ml [15 - 32]
    PTH: 30 pg/ml [10 – 65]
    FSH: 4,19 miu/ml [1,27 - 19,26]_____________________________________________0,55_____________________________________0,72
    LH: 3,88 miu/ml [1,24 - 8,62]_______________________________________________0,15_____________________________________2,58
    PREGNENOLONE: 161 ng/ml [10 - 230]
    ANDROSTENEDIONE: 1,89 ng/ml [0,3 - 3,1]
    ALDOSTERONE: 155 pg/ml [10 - 160]
    DHEA: 7,9 ng/ml [2,5 - 9,5]
    DHEAS: 233 mcg/dl [106 - 464]
    DHT: 625 pg/ml [250 - 990]________________________________________________1250_____________________________________300
    TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,1 ng/ml [1,75 - 7,81]_________________________________44,7_________________0,48_________________1,61________________4,84________________6,32_________________9,41
    TESTOSTERONE FREE: 15 pg/ml [8 - 47]_____________________________________219,68____________________________________5,9
    SHBG: 37 nmoli/l [13 - 71]_________________________________________________6_________________________________________24,8
    ESTRONE: 48 pg/ml [40 - 60]
    ESTRADIOL 17-BETA: 34 pg/ml [<20 - 47]____________________________________150_________________27__________________________________________________ ______________________________97
    ESTRIOL: 6 pg/ml [4,7 - 7,1]
    PROGESTERONE: 0,98 ng/ml [0,14 - 2,06]____________________________________1,41
    PRL: 3,4 ng/ml [2,64 - 13,13]______________________________________________15,12________________0,62_________________1__________________________________________________ __________10,32
    IGF-1: 135 ng/ml [96 - 494]_______________________________________________159__________________238__________________________________________________ _______461__________________520
    HGH: 0,3 ng/ml [0 - 10]__________________________________________________ ______________________11,1____________________________________10,5_________________22,2_________________25,7

    URINE
    COLOUR: straw-coloured__________________________________________________ ____________________straw-coloured__________________________________________________ __________________yellow-coloured
    APPEARANCE: limpid [limpid]__________________________________________________ __________________lightly opalescent__________________________________________________ _______________lightly opalescent
    PH REACTION: 5,7 [5 - 6,5]__________________________________________________ ___________________5__________________________________________________ ______________________________5
    SPECIFIC WEIGHT: 1021 [1015 - 1028]__________________________________________________ _________1017__________________________________________________ ___________________________1022
    PROTEINS: none mg/dl [0 - 10]__________________________________________________ ________________none__________________________________________________ ___________________________none
    HEMOGLOBIN: none [none]__________________________________________________ ___________________traces__________________________________________________ __________________________none
    GLUCOSE: none gr/litre [0 - 0,2]__________________________________________________ _______________none__________________________________________________ ___________________________none
    KETONE BODIES: none [none]__________________________________________________ _________________none__________________________________________________ ___________________________none
    UROBILINOGEN: none mg/dl [0 - 0,2]__________________________________________________ ___________none__________________________________________________ ___________________________none
    BILIARY PIGMENTS: none [none]__________________________________________________ ______________none__________________________________________________ ___________________________none
    NITRITE: none [none]__________________________________________________ _______________________none__________________________________________________ ___________________________none

    FAECES
    SHAPE: homogeneous [homogeneous]
    CONSISTENCY: poltacea [poltacea]
    COLOUR:brown [brown]
    ODOUR: sui generis [sui generis]
    MUCUS: absent [absent]
    BLOOD: absent [absent]
    PH REACTION: 7
    PARASITOLOGICAL: negative [negative]
    SALMONELLA: negative [negative]
    HELICOBACTER PYLORI: negative [negative]
    GIARDIASIS: negative [negative]

    SPERM
    VOLUME: 2,9 ml [>= 2]__________________________________________________ __1,8_________________3,1
    PH: 7,9 [7,2 - 8]__________________________________________________ _______8,6_________________8,2
    APPEARANCE: own__________________________________________________ _____own_________________own
    VISCOSITY: within limits [within limits]______________________________________increased +++_______increased +
    FLUIDIFICATION 45': physiologic [physiologic]________________________________irregular_____________physiologic
    SPERMATOZOON CONCENTRATION: 90.000.000 /ml [>= 20.000.000]______________58.000.000__________3.400.000
    EJACULATE SPERMATOZOON COUNT: 249.900.000 [>= 40.000.000]______________104.400.000_________10.540.000
    2ND HOUR MOTILITY: 59 % [>= 50]_________________________________________40__________________30
    TYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 36 % [>= 35]________________________24__________________26
    ATYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 70 %______________________________76__________________74
    IMMATURE MORPHOLOGIC: 200.000_________________________________________220.000_____________200.000
    LEUCOCYTE: 300.000 /ml [<=1.000.000]_____________________________________absent______________absent
    ERYTHROCYTE: absent [absent/rare]________________________________________absent______________absent
    GERMINAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]________________________________________rare_________________rare
    EPITHELIAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]_______________________________________rare_________________absent
    SPERMAGGLUTINATION ZONES: rare [absent/rare]_____________________________rare________________absent

    rHGH BRANDS QUALITY BLOOD CHECK
    IGF-1: 135 ng/ml [96 - 494]_____________238________________________________461_________________520______________144____________455
    HGH: 0,3 ng/ml [0 - 10]________________11,1_______________10,5_____________22,2________________25,7______________3,3____________63,3

    .................................................. ........EuroHormones
    .................................................. .....................................Generic Green
    .................................................. .................................................. .............HardCoreGrowth
    .................................................. .................................................. ..............................................Hyge.tropin
    .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ......................Somatrope
    .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...............................................Hypertropin

    Notes:
    Injection time: 5:30 am (eurh/green/hdg), 6 am (hyg/som/hyp)
    Days on the same drug before testing: 7 (all five types), 3 (som)
    Blood work time: 8:00 am (all six types)
    Amount injected: 4 iu (eurh/green/som) - 5 iu (hdg/hyg/hyp)
    Injection site: umbilical (eurh) - oblique (green/hdg/hyg/som/hyp)
    Injection type: sub-q (all six types)


    BLOOD PRESSURE:
    ______________Day 1__________Day 8__________Day 15__________Day 22__________Day 29__________Day 36__________Day 43__________Day 50__________Day 70__________Day 78__________Day 98__________Day 123__________Day 140
    SYS (mmHg)_______119____________119____________123____________119_____________128____________131_____________105_____________115____________116_____________118_____________122____________110______________107
    DIA (mmHg)________60_____________50_____________52_____________50______________56_____________51______________42______________50______________41_____________39_______________57_____________54_______________47
    BPM______________68_____________74_____________68_____________64______________67______________76______________73______________70______________81_____________64______________75______________74_______________75




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    Post 1st WEEK

    Day 1
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.327
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Light Headache, Stomachache, Flatulence
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: R Delt (22g 1¼")
    Blood Pressure: 119 SYS (mmHg), 60 DIA (mmHg), 68 BPM

    Day 2
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.374
    Training: Legs
    Sides: Diarrhoea, Light Headache, Tummy ache, Flatulence
    Additional Drugs: Neomycin (50000 iu), Loperamide (16 mg), Diazepam (10 mg)
    Injection Site: L Delt (22g 1¼")

    Day 3
    50 mg mes
    Kcal: 2.001
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Diarrhoea, Tummy ache, Flatulence, Light Headache
    Additional Drugs: Diazepam (10 mg)
    Injection Site: None

    Day 4
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.296
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Light Headache, Flatulence
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: L Trap (25g ⅝")

    Day 5
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.106
    Training: Legs
    Sides: Headache, Flatulence
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: R Thigh (23g 1¼")

    Day 6
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.301
    Training: Shoulders
    Sides: Flatulence
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: L Thigh (23g 1¼")

    Day 7
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.691
    Training: Chest
    Sides: Flatulence, Light Bloating
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: L Glute (23g 1")

    Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.156

    1ST WEEK NOTES
    After a tough beginning where I experienced severe diarrhoea, my organism seems to have accepted the oil dissolved with the testosterone propionate , ethyl oleate (Testosterone Propionate Cycle Started but...).
    Regarding strength, I did not notice any important improvement so far.
    Starting from week 2 till week 8, I will inject 500 mg weekly of Boldenone Undecylenate (250x2), to experiment with the stamina effect and to avoid tendons injury since I am also practising Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

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    bump

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    def subbed....

    almost same cycle as im starting soon..test prop/eq/anavar /proviron

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    that is F;in awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Should be a good thread and will be nice to compare to your var cycle

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    Wow, 5-stars thread...

    Good Luck

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    not trying to be an ass BJJ just a few q.s

    why use prop if your using suspension?
    why the eq for 8 weeks? long ester

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    not trying to be an ass BJJ just a few q.s

    why use prop if your using suspension?
    why the eq for 8 weeks? long ester
    good Qs, never came to my mind!
    I have few Qs as well:

    1- Are you going to mix Susp (water based) and Prop (Oil Based) in the same syringe? i don't know if this is possible!
    2- What's your injection sites rotation plan especially with the high injection frequency (2 times per day for almost 8 weeks)?
    3- How many CC's are you injecting per injection?

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    What a great post!

    I don't want to sound like a dick or anything. But how long are you resting between sets for your current maxes?

    I mean I only weigh ~82kg @10-12% bf. My squat at the moment is 130kg 8 reps, 4 sets. Deadlift is 150kg 8 reps 4 sets. I rest on 3mins between sets though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russiandave View Post
    Should be a good thread and will be nice to compare to your var cycle
    Yes, I am definitely curious to see the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadeed View Post
    Wow, 5-stars thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadeed View Post
    good Qs, never came to my mind!
    I have few Qs as well:

    1- Are you going to mix Susp (water based) and Prop (Oil Based) in the same syringe? i don't know if this is possible!
    2- What's your injection sites rotation plan especially with the high injection frequency (2 times per day for almost 8 weeks)?
    3- How many CC's are you injecting per injection?
    Thank you.

    1. Yes, it is possible but I am not going to do it.
    2. I inject every muscles from trap to calf, forearm to lat, pect to thigh, glute to bicep and tricep. I am spreading out the sorrow and it works.
    3. I like to see the fluid going inside my body so I use 2.5 CC syringe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevey_6t9 View Post
    not trying to be an ass BJJ just a few q.s

    why use prop if your using suspension?
    why the eq for 8 weeks? long ester
    I started with prop but I had severe diarrhoea at first.
    Then, I solved the problem but a little intestine discomfort was bothering me too much so I decided to swap to susp since I have it on water.
    EQ is for the joints and stamina and even though I know is too less to run it for 7 weeks, I wanted to give it a try anyway.
    In any case, I cannot run it for more than that because the susp for 10 weeks is a lot already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixxer View Post
    What a great post!

    I don't want to sound like a dick or anything. But how long are you resting between sets for your current maxes?

    I mean I only weigh ~82kg @10-12% bf. My squat at the moment is 130kg 8 reps, 4 sets. Deadlift is 150kg 8 reps 4 sets. I rest on 3mins between sets though.
    3'?
    I rest between 1'30" up to 2' if I am doing super sets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Thank you.

    1. Yes, it is possible but I am not going to do it.
    2. I inject every muscles from trap to calf, forearm to lat, pect to thigh, glute to bicep and tricep. I am spreading out the sorrow and it works.
    3. I like to see the fluid going inside my body so I use 2.5 CC syringe.
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    Post 2nd Week

    Day 1
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.327
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Light Headache, Stomachache, Flatulence
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: R Delt (22g 1¼")
    Blood Pressure: 119 SYS (mmHg), 60 DIA (mmHg), 68 BPM

    Day 2
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.374
    Training: Legs
    Sides: Diarrhoea, Light Headache, Tummy ache, Flatulence
    Additional Drugs: Neomycin (50000 iu), Loperamide (16 mg), Diazepam (10 mg)
    Injection Site: L Delt (22g 1¼")

    Day 3
    50 mg mes
    Kcal: 2.001
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Diarrhoea, Tummy ache, Flatulence, Light Headache
    Additional Drugs: Diazepam (10 mg)
    Injection Site: None

    Day 4
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.296
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Light Headache, Flatulence
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: L Trap (25g ⅝")

    Day 5
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.106
    Training: Legs
    Sides: Headache, Flatulence
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: R Thigh (23g 1¼")

    Day 6
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.301
    Training: Shoulders
    Sides: Flatulence
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: L Thigh (23g 1¼")

    Day 7
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.691
    Training: Chest
    Sides: Flatulence, Light Bloating
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: L Glute (23g 1")

    Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.156

    1ST WEEK NOTES
    After a tough beginning where I experienced severe diarrhoea, my organism seems to have accepted the oil dissolved with the testosterone propionate , ethyl oleate (Testosterone Propionate Cycle Started but...).
    Regarding strength, I did not notice any important improvement so far.
    Starting from week 2 till week 8, I will inject 500 mg weekly of Boldenone Undecylenate (250x2), to experiment with the stamina effect and to avoid tendons injury since I am also practising Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

    Day 8
    70 mg test prop / 250 mg eq / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.665
    Training: Cardio 30', Biceps & Triceps
    Sides: Light Headache, Light Bloating
    Additional Drugs: Neomycin (50000 iu)
    Injection Site: R Trap (25g ⅝")
    Blood Pressure: 119 SYS (mmHg), 50 DIA (mmHg), 74 BPM

    Day 9
    70 mg test prop / 75 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.705
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Light Headache, Light Bloating
    Additional Drugs: Neomycin (75000 iu)
    Injection Site: L Tricep (25g ⅝")

    Day 10
    60 mg test susp / 75 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.493
    Training: Cardio 30'
    Sides: Light Bloating
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: R Tricep (25g ⅝") - L Delt (23g 1")

    Day 11
    70 mg test susp / 250 mg eq / 75 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.591
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Nil
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: L Bicep (25g ⅝") - R Bicep (25g ⅝") - L Calf (23g 1¼")

    Day 12
    70 mg test susp / 75 mg mes
    Kcal: 4.406
    Training: Back, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
    Sides: Anal Burning
    Additional Drugs: Neomycin (50000 iu)
    Injection Site: R Calf (23g 1¼") - R Glute (23g 1¼")

    Day 13
    70 mg test susp / 75 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.300
    Training: Cardio 30'
    Sides: Anal Burning
    Additional Drugs: Neomycin (50000 iu)
    Injection Site: L Forearm (25g ⅝") - L Trap (25g ⅝")

    Day 14
    70 mg test susp / 250 mg eq / 75 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.402
    Training: Legs
    Sides: Anal Burning, Diarrhoea
    Additional Drugs: Loperamide (6 mg), Neomycin (50000 iu)
    Injection Site: R Pect (23g 1¼") - R Trap (23g 1") - L Pect (23g 1¼")

    Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.651

    2ND WEEK NOTES
    On day 8, I increased the daily intake of testosterone propionate up to 70 ed mg for a total of 490 mg weekly.
    On day 9, I increased the daily intake of mesterolone up to 75 mg ed for a total of 525 mg weekly.
    On day 10, I swapped the testosterone propionate for the suspension.
    On day 11, I increased the daily intake of testosterone suspension up to 70 mg ed for a total of 490 mg weekly.
    On day 12, strength finally showed up. I think it came a little late because of the diarrhoea problems I had to cope with, which still come and go.
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    My head is spinning after reading through this and doing my best to comprehend what Im reading.

    Thank you for doing such a detailed cycle overview.
    You Def. have the tools and knowledge to teach all of us.
    Keep it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by twotimer View Post
    My head is spinning after reading through this and doing my best to comprehend what Im reading.

    Thank you for doing such a detailed cycle overview.
    You Def. have the tools and knowledge to teach all of us.
    Keep it up
    Well, thank you for your kind words but I am afraid it is not like that, unfortunately.

    I have to cope again with this bastard diarrhoea and I am struggling to understand what is wrong now!!!

    Where I am mistaking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Well, thank you for your kind words but I am afraid it is not like that, unfortunately.

    I have to cope again with this bastard diarrhoea and I am struggling to understand what is wrong now!!!

    Where I am mistaking...
    Have you tried any of the natural remedies i posted in your other thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadeed View Post
    Have you tried any of the natural remedies i posted in your other thread?
    Yes I did but with no improvement, unfortunately.

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    Strangely, either Oxandrolone and Testosterone Suspension kicked in the same day!
    What a coincidence...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Strangely, either Oxandrolone and Testosterone Suspension kicked in the same day!
    What a coincidence...
    What do you mean by kicked in? Come on you know I want details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Yes I did but with no improvement, unfortunately.
    Sorry to hear this man!

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    hows the suspension pain?

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    what caused the abdominal/diarrhea.. i just dont get it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aizen Sosuke View Post
    What do you mean by kicked in? Come on you know I want details.
    Simply that I had the strength to go over the maximum weight I reached with Oxandrolone previously.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadeed View Post
    Sorry to hear this man!
    I am sorry too...
    But I am also very angry, I do not like when something happens and have no clue on the reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by stevey_6t9 View Post
    hows the suspension pain?
    The pain makes me laugh!
    Anyway, the worst injection was into my forearm, the easiest into my chest.
    The worst, after a few days, was the one I did in my calf.

    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa View Post
    what caused the abdominal/diarrhea.. i just dont get it..
    At first I thought about ethyl oleate, so I swapped to suspension and for a couple of days the problem was solved.
    The point is, during those days I started to inject EQ, which has another type of oil, arachis, and we all know its half life is 2 weeks long more or less.
    So, I presume I am also "allergic" to that oil?

    Down below, an intelligent post.
    The point is, I never had problems with any injection sites and I injected all over my body.
    So, it should be a personal allergy to those oils.

    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    It's important to understand that in the medical world, Ethyl Oleate is only really used as a solvent in injectable progesterone therapy for women seeking to increase their chance at pregnancy. So, unfortunately, there is little documentation on the incidence and frequency of allergic reactions to Ethyl Oleate. It is also hard to pinpoint whether it is the solvent, preservatives, base compound, or impurities in all of the above.

    There can be byproducts and unknown compounds (referred to as "peaks" on a GC/MS) that occur in the production process of hormones. That is for instance, why powders are labeled with certain purities, i.e.- 97%,98%,99%, etc. These various byproducts can be completely harmless, or they can cause rather unfavorable reactions in the human body, although their effects are more often than not negligible. However, there can be dangerous byproducts in the production of hormones and supplements, you can google Peak E and Peak X in the production of L-Tryptophan and the very serious incidences of undifferentiated fibromyalgia that was caused by these byproducts.

    The concentration and ratios of Benzyl Alcohol and Benzyl Benzoate, used as a preservative in the injectable solution can also cause adverse reactions.

    Additionally, the various solvents, also known as "carriers," can cause allergic reactions in some people. Ethyl Oleate, Polyethylene Glycol, Cottonseed Oil, Grapeseed oil, etc, and so on. It's important to understand also that in many human grade testosterone preparations the preservative chlorbutanol is used, which is actually a mild anesthetic and anti-bacterial.

    So the situation BJJ, is that you have multiple variables which could all be causing your adverse drug reaction (ADR). There is also a distinction, when referring to the carriers/preservatives between technical grade and pharmacy grade. Many people on the forums seem to think that this is a distinct difference in the product itself or that the products are completely different. In fact it is not, pharmacy grade is simply, in this case, carriers/preservatives which are manufactured according to the United States Pharmacopoeia standards. Hence, this is where the acronym "USP" grade comes from. It must be manufactured to the standards of the United States Pharmacopoeia, it must be manufactured in a facility using good manufacturing processes, which is where the acronym "GMP" derives from.

    Any number of impurities or contamination in any step of the manufacturing process in any one of the components that goes into making a sterile injectable solution can be the cause of your problem. However, if we, for arguments sake say they you are using 100% USP-NF drugs, in a GMP facility, then we could say you are most likely experiencing an anaphylactic rxn to the carrier/preservative. In this case, you should in addition to experiencing the diarrhea, experience inflammation at the injection site, adema, redness, etc. You may have to switch brands to one which does not use a more exotic carrier/preservative. In the meantime, to attenuate some of the symptoms you are experiencing, try taking 50-100mg of Diphenhydramine (brand name Benadryl) a day, and see if this helps. I would be quite worried if 4-6mg of Loperamide (brand name Immodium) was not attenuating the diarrhea. If the symptoms persist you should seek medical care immediately...

    Good luck bro...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    At first I thought about ethyl oleate, so I swapped to suspension and for a couple of days the problem was solved.
    The point is, during those days I started to inject EQ, which has another type of oil, arachis, and we all know its half life is 2 weeks long more or less.
    So, I presume I am also "allergic" to that oil?
    odd.. i have known alot of people who had ISSUES w/ EO but never any that manifested themselves in such away that they caused abdominal/bowel issues..

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    Thank you.

    1. Yes, it is possible but I am not going to do it.
    2. I inject every muscles from trap to calf, forearm to lat, pect to thigh, glute to bicep and tricep. I am spreading out the sorrow and it works.
    3. I like to see the fluid going inside my body so I use 2.5 CC syringe.
    So what needle sizes do you use for each site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa View Post
    odd.. i have known alot of people who had ISSUES w/ EO but never any that manifested themselves in such away that they caused abdominal/bowel issues..
    x2 I know tons who can't bear E.O.

    I'm the exact opposite... I get terrible reacts from Cottonseed oil: problems breathing, itchiness all over, throat swelling.

    Finding the oil that suits you is one of those hit or miss things

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    Were you taking the Var when you were having stomach issues? Im guessing not since your schedule doesn't have you on var until week 4.

    BTW, very thorough and comprehensive log!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadeed View Post
    So what needle sizes do you use for each site?
    22g 1¼", glute
    23g 1¼", delt - chest - lat
    23g 1", calf, trap
    25g ⅝", bicep - tricep - forearm

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgb6810 View Post
    Were you taking the Var when you were having stomach issues? Im guessing not since your schedule doesn't have you on var until week 4.

    BTW, very thorough and comprehensive log!!
    You are guessing correctly.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    22g 1¼", glute
    23g 1¼", delt - chest - lat
    23g 1", calf, trap
    25g ⅝", bicep - tricep - forearm
    Thanks man...

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    A question bjj, if this is indeed a bulking cycle then why inject eq instead of deca ?

    Also, I find that its hard to be 6'13

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    22g 1¼", glute
    23g 1¼", delt - chest - lat
    23g 1", calf, trap
    25g ⅝", bicep - tricep - forearm
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadeed View Post
    Thanks man...
    Forgot my thigh and femoral bicep, both 23g 1".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferocious bubble View Post
    A question bjj, if this is indeed a bulking cycle then why inject eq instead of deca ?

    Also, I find that its hard to be 6'13
    EQ and Deca are very different compounds and since I practise bjj I need stamina much more than water...

    In any case, I will probably drop EQ since the arachis oil is causing my diarrhoea.

    Also, this is not a real bulking cycle since I want to reach 100 kg only; I am not interested in becoming more heavy, again because I would not be able to move like before anymore.

    Regarding your last statement, how should I write down my height then?
    187 centimeters = 6.1351706 feet

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    Oh can you put the eq in sterile water possibly?

    And when you put down your height like 6'13 it sound like your saying six feet thirteen inches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferocious bubble View Post
    Oh can you put the eq in sterile water possibly? how would you do that?

    And when you put down your height like 6'13 it sound like your saying six feet thirteen inches.
    I see, but you did not answer my question. How should I write it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferocious bubble View Post
    Oh can you put the eq in sterile water possibly?

    And when you put down your height like 6'13 it sound like your saying six feet thirteen inches.
    Wanna know this too

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