Dbol cycle using AI from day1...??

[Yaacovab]

Hey I'm new to the aas world but iv done 7 months of non stop research in Iraq... My first cylce consist of dbol only ( I know dbol only is weak it will just blow me up due to the water retention ) but like I said it's mY first cycle so I'd like to see what happens first with this and move foward...anyways iv been taking nolvadex since my first day on this cycle I'm doing about 25mg
/ day ...is it smart to start any AI such as nolv. Right from the start all the way through the end of the cycle? Also have proviron to use towards the end of the cycle...I'm doing 20 mg of naps now and will not go over 30mg for this cycle... In case your wondering I'm 26 and 143lbs (i'm 64"in)... Any help would be preciate it... Thanks

[corsa5000]

dbol on its own will do nothing for you, and without sounding rude your too underdeveloped shall we say to use AAS. but hey if you want to give your liver a bumpy ride for nothing and mess around with test levels go ahead, youll regret it in the end

[Yaacovab]

Maybe your right ... Iv also seen people
doing similar cycles and gain good size and kept SOME of there gains... Then used same cycle to kickstart another cycle just added some testo...

[AlphaMaleDawg]

dbol on its own will do nothing for you, and without sounding rude your too underdeveloped shall we say to use AAS. but hey if you want to give your liver a bumpy ride for nothing and mess around with test levels go ahead, youll regret it in the end

143lbs at 5'4 isn't underdeveloped

[Yaacovab]

Yeah I'm pretty short lol but don't think I'm undervloped I got some size on me...

[Yaacovab]

Btw weighted myself last night i'm 147 lbs... But is there anyone who could just answer the question please?

[jordann]

First off, nolva is not an AI, it's a SERM.

Second, dbol is not weak. It's actually very powerful and has a lot of potential to do damage if not done properly.

Lastly, you did zero research if you ended your final result on a dbol only cycle.

[jordann]

Also, proviron will be useless in this cycle since it is DHT based and only really has a strong synergy with testosterone. Which is what you should've used.

[Yaacovab]

Thanks... I did a little reasearch that's why I decided to go with a dbol cycle only because I was trying to stay away from needles for now... See how my body would react to this first....i'm going on week2 of this cycle would
it be stupid to add some test at the mid- end of this cycle or would be it to late at this point? Thanks...

[Mooseman33]

7 months of nonstop researching has now now been changed to a little research...

u have no clue what u are doing, none...u should stop the dbol now...please visit the other thread that says dbol help....

just stop the so called cycle of shit and take tiome to educate urself....

[Yaacovab]

It was a bit more then 7 months of research bro nothing turned to nothing...I said little cuz obviously I still got LOTS to learn...and yeah probebly should of waited longer before starting anything it's tru I see that a dbol only cycle is stupid and a waist time but on the other hand I saw couple people grow pretty good with a dbol cycle only... So that right there made me want to try it...

["DIRTY D" SANCHEZ]

If you plan on continuing this "dbol only" cycle, i would add test to it asap. Everyone says test e for first cycle, but you are shutdown now from the dbol, so maybe test prop til you finish whatever you are doing with the dbol... I have done it alone and it does give good gains, and yes some should be water, but to keep and gain more, test shoudl be the basis of any cycle that has a negative effect on the hpta...

You say it was staying away from the needles that kept you rfom doing test with it first right?

Well not many of any will suggest this since it will be terribly hard on the liver, but if pinning scares you so much, you need to at least run a ph with methyl test to keep test in your body.... But i feel that you have it in you to get some prop and start "now" so that you can try and have a better chance of recovery when you pct.

I suggested prop, because its half life is so short, that it will get your levels up faster then c or e, and i don't want to recommend suspension for you at all. Get test whatever you do, but get it quick whether you have to settle with test e or prop get test!!!

Good luck,

"dirty d"

[Mooseman33]

monkey see, monkey doo.....

cmon man, everyone is different. we try to give good advice, advice that will not jkust help you in the "now" but what will be best for you down the road.

and truth be told, some guys just get lucky...

get off the dbol, and learn...we are more then happy to help..

[Mooseman33]

If you plan on continuing this "dbol only" cycle, i would add test to it asap. Everyone says test e for first cycle, but you are shutdown now from the dbol, so maybe test prop til you finish whatever you are doing with the dbol... I have done it alone and it does give good gains, and yes some should be water, but to keep and gain more, test shoudl be the basis of any cycle that has a negative effect on the hpta...

You say it was staying away from the needles that kept you rfom doing test with it first right?

Well not many of any will suggest this since it will be terribly hard on the liver, but if pinning scares you so much, you need to at least run a ph with methyl test to keep test in your body.... But i feel that you have it in you to get some prop and start "now" so that you can try and have a better chance of recovery when you pct.

I suggested prop, because its half life is so short, that it will get your levels up faster then c or e, and i don't want to recommend suspension for you at all. Get test whatever you do, but get it quick whether you have to settle with test e or prop get test!!!

Good luck,

"dirty d"

i disagree.
the only advice he should get is to stop with the shit he is taking and learn the proper way.
he should not be using anything else till he is educated on it.

Please dont give advise to people who have no clue what in the sam hell they are doing....

["DIRTY D" SANCHEZ]

I see what you mean, but i doubt he will stop what he has already started, most don't... I agree 100% with you moose, and have a great deal of respect for you and your knowledge, but what i as trying to say (sorry if it came across wrong) is that if you are going to go ahead and keep doing this terrible dbol only, shouldn't he add test to try to at least make it a little easier on the hpta and recovery. I know and he knows, he should stop the dbol and use pct. I just try to let people know what they should try to do if they insist on making these terrible choices.....? I'm sorry if nobody agrees with me giving that advice, but i've made those mistakes, and would rather them make a little bit safer bad choice then all out terrible ya know. We all see it differently, but like i said, all respects to vets who don't agree with my angle of helping....

"dirty d"


P.S.-OP- YOU REALLY DO NEED TO STOP AND GET YOUR PCT IF NOT ALREADY ON HAND AND GET YOUR NATURAL TEST BACK UP AND LET IT STAY THERE AS LONG AS POSSIBLE TIL YOU RESEARCH AND KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. ALSO, HIT THE DIET SECTION AND ODDS ARE, YOUR GOALS ARE IN WHAT YOU ARE EATING RIGHT NOW

[Yaacovab]

Well hey, thanks to both of you for your help and advice... Now my only ? Is ... Is my body completly shut down just from a week of 20mg/ day? If so nolv/ pro help bring it back to nrmal?

["DIRTY D" SANCHEZ]

Yes its shutdown, and yes, some run the nolva weeks of pct 1-4 like this 40/20/20/20- others, such as some vets where i got the info that will make me never run 40mg's the first week, is that 20mg's is plenty to do the trick. Swifto has a post on here about how potent it is. Stop dbol, take nolvadex for 4 weeks. End of story.... Then get to the diet section, critique it to every macro and workout hard for at least a year eating really well then consider aas

good luck,

"dirty d"

[Yaacovab]

Cool thanks again!