Winny over Var?

[sarasotafloridabrian]

My source tells me Winny over Var.

I'm 5'9", 170, but at an abismal 17% BF. I know I know.

So I'm radically changing diet, and I wanted to do something more mild so thought Var. 20MG a day for 2 weeks, 30 for 2 weeks, 40 for 2 weeks, and then 60 for two weeks then off.

I don't want to gain anything, or more than say 7 lbs, but rather get better strength and recovery time with some lean muscle.

Thoughts?

Thanks guys.

[Vegas67]

Dont worry about gainiing anything over 7 pounds of muscle with those two choices LOL Unless you are 20 years old. I think they both do the same thing...add strength and definition.

[Tyler694]

If you can afford it though, I would actually choose var over winny..

[JasonT]

Just my opinion, don't take it the wrong way, but 17% @ 5'9" and 170, you should just put the cheeseburger down and pick up some weights.

[millionairemurph]

Yes lose bodyfat first then plan and do a killer cycle instead of a half assed BS cycle.

Dont pyramid dosage on VAR just do xxx amount everyday until you are done.

Why not try an ECA stack for fat loss and then cycle when you have less risk of gyno ( i know you wont get gyno from DHTs, but i'd use test with the DHTs, personally)

[HeavyHitter]

dont like that at all... i would pm a doc/vet and ask them about those dosages. IMO thats just a waste of time. i gained 7-10 lbs of pure lean muscle using doses over 50mg a day, everyday!

ask anybody (thats a male) on here and they will tell you anything less then 40-50mg of var is a complete waste for us. obviously everyone is different tho!

[C-MaN]

Hit up the diet section. Var is very very expensive. Instead of spending your money on something that your not ready for i would spend it on good food instead of crap. There are alot of good guys in the diet section that can help you out.


Diet section:

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

[sarasotafloridabrian]

Thanks guys, except Jason (Just Kidding)
No seriously, in the gym, but after 40 it was weird how the body fat accelerated.
I got that reading from a BS scale at the gym though, I need to get a more accurate one.
Certain to do the homework on the diet deal.
I've been down the road before. Vitamin K for glycogen to energy, etc.
Some folks just change drastically metabolic after 40. I mean 5'9" and 170 is no slob, lol

I would think the PCT Tamox would be best to curb the gyno?

[sarasotafloridabrian]

BTW don't you think the ECA stack is a bit much given my height and weight. That and I'd be bouncing off the walls.
Ok no pyramid as I ran across that afterward actually THANKS MILLIONAIREMURPH
so then 50 MG per day split up in the AM and Mid Day? I see it's a 9 hour half life approx.

[C-MaN]

I didnt realize you were over 40 bro. Once you hit that mark you have to be on your shit all the time. Get the calipers done that way you know what your bf% really is. Hit the diet hard for about six months and get that bf down a little bit. Once youve done the hard work treat yourself with a nice cycle. A little test with some win at the end. But do your research!

[gymnerd]

I like Var better mainly because high dose of winni makes my soo lethargic and high dose of var gives me energy.

[sarasotafloridabrian]

I'm going to do a 50MD ED for 8 weeks
Think I need PCT on this? Tamox?

[marcus300]

Why dont you just lose some bodyfat with diet and cardio naturally then when you drop a few % think about doing a low dose testcycle and build some lean muscle, you will far benefit that at your age than running either var/winny at this stage IMHO.

[FireGuy]

Stop with the over 40 stuff as a built in excuse guys. We have lots of members on this forum over 40 that look the best they ever looked.

[sarasotafloridabrian]

Thanks Marcus and Fireguy.
No excuses about the over 40 thing, just the reality of the world.

Certainly on the path to lose the BF. I created a thread looking for advice on that point too given my particular circumstance.

Marcus I have a source legally for the test as you suggest from a local PA-C, AAAHP doctor my friend uses, but damn it's expensive. He goes in for weekly injections. I am thinking of this too.
The guy takes insurance, I think I was just concerned about any trail of the use is all.

[Lala44]

Thanks I'm one of those members.....5'7" 185lbs. 11% bf and just started my 1st cycle. Looking forward to the gains! Oh ya 44 years old and I've got a killer 30 year old gf! I feel and look better than my 20's because I was was just partying back then.