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    Question Yae or Nae?

    Question:

    1) Would there be a benefit, even the slightest, to running Nolva same time as Tbol? -- Been doing a bunch of reading on articles on Tamoxifen Citrate and it holds superior benefits versus other forms of PCT (HCG, Clomid, etc..)

    2) I take pill 1 @ 7:30am || Pill 2 @ 1pm || Pill 3 Right before bed
    -- I wonder, is there ANY benefit to taking the dose right before bed? Or would a 7pm final-dose be just as beneficial?



    CURRENT [mini] CYCLE: Tbol @ 60mg p/d
    24 y/o
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    Roughly 5x (real) cycle history (check profile if you need more detail)
    206 pds
    ?% bf


    Note: Will now go lookup half life "time" of tbol
    Last edited by New2Anabolic; 03-25-2010 at 10:13 AM.

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    Don't quote me, but i think since you're keeping the dosing times so steady that the levels will be more stable in your blood, plus when you sleep you grow, so there may be a chance it helps growth while sleeping. I take a natural test herb in the morn and before bed....? I know its nothing near the same, but who knows... Maybe the concept is the same, but again, the more steady the levels, the better off it will go.

    Good luck,

    "dirty d"

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    dont run nolva with tbol as tbol wont arromatize much at all. Save it for pct as it will hinder gains

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    What is your reason for wanting to run Nolva with the Tbol?

    Tbol is 5a-reduced, so it doesn't convert to estrogen at all.

    Also, Tbol has a ~16 hour half-life. Just take it all in the morning with some grapefruit juice.

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    Really? All in the morning?!?!

    I would assume that a steady dosage throughout the day would be superior the one single dose

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    Quote Originally Posted by New2Anabolic View Post
    Really? All in the morning?!?!

    I would assume that a steady dosage throughout the day would be superior the one single dose
    You'll never see a difference.

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    i am running 10mg of tamoxifen with 500mg sustanon every 4 days. i'll be honest. i don't understand why tamoxifen will hender gains. can anyone tell me why taking an anti-estrogen inhibits gains, when it is the testosterone that causes gains?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dock holliday View Post
    i am running 10mg of tamoxifen with 500mg sustanon every 4 days. i'll be honest. i don't understand why tamoxifen will hender gains. can anyone tell me why taking an anti-estrogen inhibits gains, when it is the testosterone that causes gains?
    Nolva (tamox) is a SERM, not an AI. SERMs lower IGF-1 production, which can hinder your gains a little.

    Taking too high a dose of an actual AI (Letro) will also kill gains because your body does need at least some estrogen. The key is to keep it to within normal levels.

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