Deca cycle opinions

[upperhandy]

Was hoping for some guidance:

I have run cycles in the past with no ill effects. But I was really just a dumb kid without the right knowledge to do things right...

I have run this cycle in the past with no real probs. Never did any PCT, but that was because I had no clue about that back then. Deca only cycle (never had any deca d**k issues)

wk
1 200mg
2 300mg
3 400mg
4 500mg
5 500mg
6 400mg
7 300mg
8 200mg
9 100mg
10 50mg
11 25mg
12 25mg

guidance appreciated

PCT necessary with taper?

thanks

[marcus300]

The cycle is awfull,
What are your stats?
How long have you been training?
Previous cycles and dosages?

[Hard.On]

I think this is a joke.

[upperhandy]

33 yo
6'0"
195#
15% bf

i have been training solid for a year now in the weight room, but also have been doing mixed martial arts for the past 5yrs

been doing the workouts out of the arnold encyclopedia and following the diet laid out in there as well

my daily diet looks like the following:

approx 3500 - 4000 calories daily

160 g fat
290 g carb
290 g protein

i lift heavy 3 times a week in the morn and do mixed martial arts 5 days a week in the evenings

previous cycles as listed in the first post.

as i said before i ran these cycles when i was in my early 20's and didn't know sh*t about what i was doing....

advice appreciated

[upperhandy]

bump

[Mooseman33]

1. that could be the worst cycle i have ever seen.
2. does everyone do mma now a days?
3. u got lucky if u ran that before and had no ill effects, do not push your luck.
4. if u are still considering this cycle, u still dont know shit.

cmon man, throw a low dose of test in there, u will be happy...

[upperhandy]

1. that could be the worst cycle i have ever seen.
2. does everyone do mma now a days?
3. u got lucky if u ran that before and had no ill effects, do not push your luck.
4. if u are still considering this cycle, u still dont know shit.

cmon man, throw a low dose of test in there, u will be happy...

thanks moose...

yeah, still educating myself.

[Mooseman33]

we all are my friend, we all are.....

feel free to ask anything u need...better to ask then assume when dealing with AAS...

[upperhandy]

we all are my friend, we all are.....

feel free to ask anything u need...better to ask then assume when dealing with AAS...

got deca stuck in my head cause of good gains when i was younger (sounds like it was mostly blind luck)

was reading about deca/dbol stack in william llewellyn's "Anabolics 2009"

quote from the book
"This is an extremely old and widely repeated steroid combination, based on the predominantly anabolic steroid nandrolone decanoate. Methandrostenolone serves as the androgenic component of this stack, and is added during week 3, which is a time that side effects of reduced androgenicity (with the exclusive use of nandrolone decanoate) are commonly noticed, such as loss of libido and sexual dysfunction.The doses used in this cycle are not high by most bodybuilding standards, but are sufficient to impart a noticeable increase in muscle size and strength."

wk deca dbol
1 200mg 0
2 200mg 0
3 200mg 10mg/day
4 200mg 10mg/day
5 300mg 10mg/day
6 300mg 15mg/day
7 300mg 15mg/day
8 300mg 15mg/day


thoughts?

[Hard.On]

got deca stuck in my head cause of good gains when i was younger (sounds like it was mostly blind luck)

was reading about deca/dbol stack in william llewellyn's "Anabolics 2009"

quote from the book
"This is an extremely old and widely repeated steroid combination, based on the predominantly anabolic steroid nandrolone decanoate. Methandrostenolone serves as the androgenic component of this stack, and is added during week 3, which is a time that side effects of reduced androgenicity (with the exclusive use of nandrolone decanoate) are commonly noticed, such as loss of libido and sexual dysfunction.The doses used in this cycle are not high by most bodybuilding standards, but are sufficient to impart a noticeable increase in muscle size and strength."

wk deca dbol
1 200mg 0
2 200mg 0
3 200mg 10mg/day
4 200mg 10mg/day
5 300mg 10mg/day
6 300mg 15mg/day
7 300mg 15mg/day
8 300mg 15mg/day


thoughts?

Like moose said TEST< TEST < TEST

[alpenguy]

Are you sure your Deca was legit? I've done Deca only cycle and I think that cycle would have caused me some issues

[upperhandy]

Are you sure your Deca was legit? I've done Deca only cycle and I think that cycle would have caused me some issues

as sure as i can be...

got them south of the boarder... and got some good results... but as i said above, i really didn't know what i was doing back then.

more balls than brains, so i might have been shooting a low grade knock off

[Juicing Post Whore]

Test is best.

[Knockout_Power]

got deca stuck in my head cause of good gains when i was younger (sounds like it was mostly blind luck)

was reading about deca/dbol stack in william llewellyn's "Anabolics 2009"

quote from the book
"This is an extremely old and widely repeated steroid combination, based on the predominantly anabolic steroid nandrolone decanoate. Methandrostenolone serves as the androgenic component of this stack, and is added during week 3, which is a time that side effects of reduced androgenicity (with the exclusive use of nandrolone decanoate) are commonly noticed, such as loss of libido and sexual dysfunction.The doses used in this cycle are not high by most bodybuilding standards, but are sufficient to impart a noticeable increase in muscle size and strength."

wk deca dbol
1 200mg 0
2 200mg 0
3 200mg 10mg/day
4 200mg 10mg/day
5 300mg 10mg/day
6 300mg 15mg/day
7 300mg 15mg/day
8 300mg 15mg/day


thoughts?

I dont blame you for your misinterpretation of Deca. Back in the day, thats all I heard about, Deca this, Deca that, Deca is the king steroid... but running it how you propose is not a good idea, nor the ideal way to run the compound.

1) test should be included in every cycle. Read the profile on Deca, it can shut you down with a single 100mg shot.

2) ramping Deca is useless, again in the profile, you will see that in order for it to stabilize at any given dosage in the body, it takes 3-4 weeks. So if you run 200 for 4 weeks, then you will have it stable there at that point, but then ramping it to 300, it only becomes stable just as you are finishing your cycle so it really didnt do anything upping the amount. See the point? Either run it @ 200 or 300 and 8 weeks on Deca is very short, most will say 9-10 weeks minimum before you really see its gains and, again, most will say it really only becomes a potent muscle builder 400+/week.