Your greatest stack/cycle ever

**Half-Life 6** · 03-30-2010, 05:49 PM

If you were allowed only one cycle in your life for bulking (12 week long) what would you choose?

**inky-e** · 03-30-2010, 05:51 PM

My best yet was HGH..test..tren ..masteron ...

**donberry427** · 03-30-2010, 06:27 PM

test prop/tren ace/masteron /hgh ..... I would love to take that lol

**Half-Life 6** · 03-30-2010, 06:32 PM

lol too expensive huh?

**donberry427** · 03-30-2010, 06:37 PM

I havent even cycled yet.... maybe when i get 3-4 cycles under my belt ill go with that cycle. hgh is expensive though

**Half-Life 6** · 03-30-2010, 07:11 PM

whats the purpose of adding in masteron ?

**donberry427** · 03-30-2010, 07:33 PM

Its only worth it if you are of low body fat. Alot of guys use it pre-contest. heres some info on it....

"One of the reasons why many hesitate to use steroids is because of its potentially harmful side effects. You may have heard in the news how wrestlers, athletes and body builders have lost their lives, lost their minds, and jeopardized their career because of steroid use . However, these side effects only occur when these substances are abused. Despite being a high androgen, there are only a few known Masteron side-effects. Perhaps one of the earliest Masteron side-effects to manifest would be aggression. Which could be considered beneficial rather than a side effect because it pushes you to exert more effort in the workout making muscle gain more effective. It also inhibits the accumulation of fat which is why it is a popular pre contest drug both for body builders and athletes.

As an androgen, the Masteron side effects related to the conversion of free testosterone to estrogen is unheard of because of its low tendency to aromatize. Estrogen is responsible for the primary sexual characteristics of females. In men, when aromatization of testosterone to estrogen takes place, such characteristics like gynecomastia and water retention will become noticeable. Gynecomastia is the enlarging of the bust in males. Water retention causes bloating which will interfere with muscle gain especially since your mass will have a considerable amount of water weight. Estrogenic effects will also make men accumulate fat deposits in the adipose tissue.

Since there is a lack of Masteron side effects it doesn’t mean there are no side effects at all. One of the more prominent Masteron side effects would be hair loss, that is to those who have the propensity towards this condition. If you have no genetical inclination to hairloss then this Masteron side effect would not be a problem. Other Masteron side effects are acne which is caused by over active sebaceous glands. However, this shouldn’t be a cause for concern since you will also experience this side effect in other steroids . "

edit: also checkout the info on this website

http://www.steroid.com/Masteron.php

**taiboxa** · 03-30-2010, 09:07 PM

i would do a repeat of my last big cycle.. but i'd like to double my GH dosing.. and go to 30+iu ED .. thing is the 16-18iu ED is quite painful as far as sides/joints go..

i'd probably skip halo and just run alot more drol in its place.. going over 100mg halo ED just didnt give me the bang i wanted

def keep tren super high again.. and test around 200mg/wk
run hell outta deca /eq again but probably up doses from 200/200(wk) to 400/400 to see if they can help your joints/connective tissue w/ collagen synthesis

IGF was fun to run w/ GH.. i liked slin/gh/igf in the morning after cardio and after resistance training in the evening.. last time i went way to high w/ slin getting up 20iu 2x/Day just made me pudg out.. so i'd keep that around 8-10iu 2x/day and up the igf from 80mcg to 150mcg/2x day

so it would probably look like this
600mg-800mgTrenE/ED
200mg Drol ED
200mg TestE /wk
400mg Deca /wk
400mg EQ /wk
10iu slin 2xday
8iu GH 3xDay
150mcg IGF 2xDay
also 25mcgT3 and 50mcg T4 ed to aid w/ protein synthsis

yeah.. that feels about right

**awesome1** · 03-30-2010, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

i would do a repeat of my last big cycle.. but i'd like to double my GH dosing.. and go to 30+iu ED .. thing is the 16-18iu ED is quite painful as far as sides/joints go..

i'd probably skip halo and just run alot more drol in its place.. going over 100mg halo ED just didnt give me the bang i wanted

def keep tren super high again.. and test around 200mg/wk
run hell outta deca /eq again but probably up doses from 200/200(wk) to 400/400 to see if they can help your joints/connective tissue w/ collagen synthesis

IGF was fun to run w/ GH.. i liked slin/gh/igf in the morning after cardio and after resistance training in the evening.. last time i went way to high w/ slin getting up 20iu 2x/Day just made me pudg out.. so i'd keep that around 8-10iu 2x/day and up the igf from 80mcg to 150mcg/2x day

so it would probably look like this
600mg-800mgTrenE/ED
200mg Drol ED
200mg TestE /wk
400mg Deca /wk
400mg EQ /wk
10iu slin 2xday
8iu GH 3xDay
150mcg IGF 2xDay
also 25mcgT3 and 50mcg T4 ed to aid w/ protein synthsis

yeah.. that feels about right

holy moly

**vanduhl** · 03-30-2010, 09:12 PM

taiboxa...what is the price for all that shit god damnnn.....haha

**jeffefrijoles** · 03-31-2010, 12:48 AM

Cheap, if you get powders direct from manufacturer and home brew....

**Kibble** · 03-31-2010, 02:50 AM

Next cycle will be:

Test E 250mg/week
Tren A 500mg/week
Mast P 400mg/week
Proviron 100mg/ed
Anavar 50mg/ed (Kickstart)
hCG 250iu E3D

This will be my third cycle

**The One** · 03-31-2010, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by awesome1

holy moly

wholly shit 800mg of tren e a day wow! you must be ****ing huge

**Hard.On** · 03-31-2010, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

i would do a repeat of my last big cycle.. but i'd like to double my GH dosing.. and go to 30+iu ED .. thing is the 16-18iu ED is quite painful as far as sides/joints go..

i'd probably skip halo and just run alot more drol in its place.. going over 100mg halo ED just didnt give me the bang i wanted

def keep tren super high again.. and test around 200mg/wk
run hell outta deca /eq again but probably up doses from 200/200(wk) to 400/400 to see if they can help your joints/connective tissue w/ collagen synthesis

IGF was fun to run w/ GH.. i liked slin/gh/igf in the morning after cardio and after resistance training in the evening.. last time i went way to high w/ slin getting up 20iu 2x/Day just made me pudg out.. so i'd keep that around 8-10iu 2x/day and up the igf from 80mcg to 150mcg/2x day

so it would probably look like this
600mg-800mgTrenE/ED
200mg Drol ED
200mg TestE /wk
400mg Deca /wk
400mg EQ /wk
10iu slin 2xday
8iu GH 3xDay
150mcg IGF 2xDay
also 25mcgT3 and 50mcg T4 ed to aid w/ protein synthsis

yeah.. that feels about right

I have been reading the posts that you have been making on multiple threads.
According to you... You have run some pretty outragous cycles.

Where does one get the money for all of these cycles?

**Vitruvian-Man** · 03-31-2010, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by twotimer

I have been reading the posts that you have been making on multiple threads.
According to you... You have run some pretty outragous cycles.

Where does one get the money for all of these cycles?

How the hell don't people get this... Homebrewing costs 1/10th the price of buying pre-made steroids .

10g of powder = 10, 000mg of hormone. And no 10g is not expensive (note: I don't want any stupid PM's looking for a source.)

Knowing how he supplements his GH would be a much more interested question; but the reality of the matter is that it is absolutely none of our business

-VM

**dec11** · 03-31-2010, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

i would do a repeat of my last big cycle.. but i'd like to double my GH dosing.. and go to 30+iu ED .. thing is the 16-18iu ED is quite painful as far as sides/joints go..

i'd probably skip halo and just run alot more drol in its place.. going over 100mg halo ED just didnt give me the bang i wanted

def keep tren super high again.. and test around 200mg/wk
run hell outta deca /eq again but probably up doses from 200/200(wk) to 400/400 to see if they can help your joints/connective tissue w/ collagen synthesis

IGF was fun to run w/ GH.. i liked slin/gh/igf in the morning after cardio and after resistance training in the evening.. last time i went way to high w/ slin getting up 20iu 2x/Day just made me pudg out.. so i'd keep that around 8-10iu 2x/day and up the igf from 80mcg to 150mcg/2x day

so it would probably look like this
600mg-800mgTrenE/ED
200mg Drol ED
200mg TestE /wk
400mg Deca /wk
400mg EQ /wk
10iu slin 2xday
8iu GH 3xDay
150mcg IGF 2xDay
also 25mcgT3 and 50mcg T4 ed to aid w/ protein synthsis

yeah.. that feels about right

having trouble believing this, why would anyone even need tht amount?

**Hunter** · 03-31-2010, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by declan11

having trouble believing this, why would anyone even need tht amount?

Tai is large experianced and its his cycle style. Tai runs the high dose 19 nor cycles with a dht and low test the same kind of cycles Nark runs.

**Hunter** · 03-31-2010, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by twotimer

I have been reading the posts that you have been making on multiple threads.
According to you... You have run some pretty outragous cycles.

Where does one get the money for all of these cycles?

Talk to any vet and they will say the magic with aas happens at high doses. Tai for as long as I have been a member here runs hrt dose of test + 19 nor+dht and other goodies. You do realize most experienced guys home brew.

**JasonT** · 03-31-2010, 09:42 AM

this thread is now about tai, lol

**dec11** · 03-31-2010, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by mn_fighter

Tai is large experianced and its his cycle style. Tai runs the high dose 19 nor cycles with a dht and low test the same kind of cycles Nark runs.

yeah, but almost 6g of tren pw?! plus, how do u know its its true?

**Vitruvian-Man** · 03-31-2010, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by declan11

having trouble believing this, why would anyone even need tht amount?

which part pray-tell do you have trouble believing?

You've never heard of guys running 4+ g/wk of AAS?

-VM

**NVR2BIG1** · 03-31-2010, 01:05 PM

Best mass stack ever for me was this; 12 wk cycle of 750mg/wk test e and 600mg/wk EQ, first 6 wks did dianabol @ 35 mg/day, next 6 wks of cycle did tren @ 75mg eod, alongside the test and Eq. Probably a pretty harsh cycle, but I've found running dbol for 4-6 wks, and then tren right behind yields some sick ass results

**dieseljimmy** · 03-31-2010, 01:15 PM

easy dream cycle

2 gram prop a wk
1 gram masteron a wk
1 gram tren a wk
1 gram eq a wk
100 mg oral winstrol

8 iu gh
varying IGF

the only problem is I can only inject 3 CC a day. anymore is just not realistic for me for long term use. I can only tolerate 1 injection a day. I simply run out of spots for injection. so this dream cycle would need to have some really overdosed stuff. and since we are dreaming how about no injection soreness.

**Maverick_J8** · 03-31-2010, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

i would do a repeat of my last big cycle.. but i'd like to double my GH dosing.. and go to 30+iu ED .. thing is the 16-18iu ED is quite painful as far as sides/joints go..

i'd probably skip halo and just run alot more drol in its place.. going over 100mg halo ED just didnt give me the bang i wanted

def keep tren super high again.. and test around 200mg/wk
run hell outta deca /eq again but probably up doses from 200/200(wk) to 400/400 to see if they can help your joints/connective tissue w/ collagen synthesis

IGF was fun to run w/ GH.. i liked slin/gh/igf in the morning after cardio and after resistance training in the evening.. last time i went way to high w/ slin getting up 20iu 2x/Day just made me pudg out.. so i'd keep that around 8-10iu 2x/day and up the igf from 80mcg to 150mcg/2x day

so it would probably look like this
600mg-800mgTrenE/ED
200mg Drol ED
200mg TestE /wk
400mg Deca /wk
400mg EQ /wk
10iu slin 2xday
8iu GH 3xDay
150mcg IGF 2xDay
also 25mcgT3 and 50mcg T4 ed to aid w/ protein synthsis

yeah.. that feels about right

Is this a piss take?

I find it hard to believe, and from looking at your avi (with all due respect). Waste of money, and suicide if not now, later.

**Vitruvian-Man** · 03-31-2010, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by dieseljimmy

easy dream cycle

2 gram prop a wk
1 gram masteron a wk
1 gram tren a wk
1 gram eq a wk
100 mg oral winstrol

8 iu gh
varying IGF

the only problem is I can only inject 3 CC a day. anymore is just not realistic for me for long term use. I can only tolerate 1 injection a day. I simply run out of spots for injection. so this dream cycle would need to have some really overdosed stuff. and since we are dreaming how about no injection soreness.

I can only handle 2cc/ed at most. Otherwise I'm too sore 24/7. You have to adjust your cycles around the concentrations. That "Wharton" bro on this site brewed his Test-E to 600mg/mL (yes - it did hold). Could you imagine the bite on that injection? lol.

I like that dream cycle of yours. 1g of mast or tren would put the worst acne on me + turn me bald. lol. I only stick to var or primo.

-VM

**dieseljimmy** · 03-31-2010, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

I can only handle 2cc/ed at most. Otherwise I'm too sore 24/7. You have to adjust your cycles around the concentrations. That "Wharton" bro on this site brewed his Test-E to 600mg/mL (yes - it did hold). Could you imagine the bite on that injection? lol.

I like that dream cycle of yours. 1g of mast or tren would put the worst acne on me + turn me bald. lol. I only stick to var or primo.

-VM

600 mg test E would be great- less the 4 day lump that prevents anything but calf, forearm and ab training.

I had some nasty prop once and shot 2cc prop and 1 cc tren in my lat and the next day my thigh. I couldnt do chest, shoulders or back cause the lat lump was killing me or legs because of the thigh injection. so I get to gym thinking I could work through. heavy metal blasting, 40 mg halo in and 200 mcg of clen . long and short my head is screaming to lift some heavy wieght. I got a set of pull ups in, and said f*ck it and did 2 hrs of the heaviest calf and abs I have every done. then for the next several day could not walk because of the calf tightness and could not bend over because of the abs, on top of the injection pains. I made some "special brownies" and called off the rest of the week. played halo(video game) got caught up on flashforward, and took advantage of myself repeatedly.

one of the best weeks ever.

**wormwood** · 03-31-2010, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

i would do a repeat of my last big cycle.. but i'd like to double my GH dosing.. and go to 30+iu ED .. thing is the 16-18iu ED is quite painful as far as sides/joints go..

i'd probably skip halo and just run alot more drol in its place.. going over 100mg halo ED just didnt give me the bang i wanted

def keep tren super high again.. and test around 200mg/wk
run hell outta deca /eq again but probably up doses from 200/200(wk) to 400/400 to see if they can help your joints/connective tissue w/ collagen synthesis

IGF was fun to run w/ GH.. i liked slin/gh/igf in the morning after cardio and after resistance training in the evening.. last time i went way to high w/ slin getting up 20iu 2x/Day just made me pudg out.. so i'd keep that around 8-10iu 2x/day and up the igf from 80mcg to 150mcg/2x day

so it would probably look like this
600mg-800mgTrenE/ED
200mg Drol ED
200mg TestE /wk
400mg Deca /wk
400mg EQ /wk
10iu slin 2xday
8iu GH 3xDay
150mcg IGF 2xDay
also 25mcgT3 and 50mcg T4 ed to aid w/ protein synthsis

yeah.. that feels about right

600 mg's of Tren per day huh?..........

**audis4** · 03-31-2010, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

i would do a repeat of my last big cycle.. but i'd like to double my GH dosing.. and go to 30+iu ED .. thing is the 16-18iu ED is quite painful as far as sides/joints go..

i'd probably skip halo and just run alot more drol in its place.. going over 100mg halo ED just didnt give me the bang i wanted

def keep tren super high again.. and test around 200mg/wk
run hell outta deca /eq again but probably up doses from 200/200(wk) to 400/400 to see if they can help your joints/connective tissue w/ collagen synthesis

IGF was fun to run w/ GH.. i liked slin/gh/igf in the morning after cardio and after resistance training in the evening.. last time i went way to high w/ slin getting up 20iu 2x/Day just made me pudg out.. so i'd keep that around 8-10iu 2x/day and up the igf from 80mcg to 150mcg/2x day

so it would probably look like this
600mg-800mgTrenE/ED
200mg Drol ED
200mg TestE /wk
400mg Deca /wk
400mg EQ /wk
10iu slin 2xday
8iu GH 3xDay
150mcg IGF 2xDay
also 25mcgT3 and 50mcg T4 ed to aid w/ protein synthsis

yeah.. that feels about right

tai, what's your reason for running a 'cruise' dose of test? How do you feel on that much tren?

**taiboxa** · 03-31-2010, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by wormwood

600 mg's of Tren per day huh?..........

i'v gone higher lol.. it didnt really improve the gains though.. did make me veiny and dry .. and mad high blood pressure

**audis4** · 03-31-2010, 03:57 PM

^^also, did you like IGF? what did it do for you?

**jordann** · 03-31-2010, 03:57 PM

Test/tren . Keep it (relatively) simple.

**Vitruvian-Man** · 03-31-2010, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by audis4

tai, what's your reason for running a 'cruise' dose of test? How do you feel on that much tren?

Why would anyone use just a maintenance dosage of test?

Simple: because they want to let other compounds (ones which cause less sides, potentially for the individual.) do the work.

A simple TRT dosage just assists in facilitating mood and body function... while the other compounds actually sculpt the body.

low test + high 19-nors is sick cycle (not high like Tai's dosages.. never had experience w/ anything near there.).... only issue is people who are sensitive to prolactin or gyno sometimes have problems.

-VM

**donberry427** · 03-31-2010, 04:12 PM

1000mg/w REAL Primo
1000mg/w winstol
1000mg/w masteron
1000mg prop

20 weeks

**taiboxa** · 03-31-2010, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by audis4

tai, what's your reason for running a 'cruise' dose of test? How do you feel on that much tren?

simple.. the easiest way to manipulate your estrogen levels and reducing many sides .. especially when your running a compound like tren that plays a role w/ prolactin/progesterone is to reduce the heavily aromatizing compounds like test..
if you reduce it then you reduce the amount of conversion to estrogen.. which aactually helps immensely with the sides such as insomnia/mood and even seems to help my stamina..
i hate caber n' bromo and see no need to incorp an AI when i can just reduce test.

**Vitruvian-Man** · 03-31-2010, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

i hate caber n' bromo and see no need to incorp an AI when i can just reduce test.

....x2

It's beyond me why people believe they need to run dopamine-agonists w/ 19-nors... (IE) people who run bromo or caber the whole cycle.

I stay as far away from them as possible... unless absolutely necessary.

And the only "AI" I use is aromsain.. and even then, I avoid it like the plague. (thx god I'm not sensitive to estrogen/prolactin.)

-VM

**hyperkondriac** · 03-31-2010, 05:46 PM

on my first inject cycle

250mg of Test-e /twice per week for 12 weeks
200mg of Deca /twice per week started 5 weeks after starting the test -

Starting to feel good in the gym

**taiboxa** · 03-31-2010, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by audis4

^^also, did you like IGF? what did it do for you?

its hella better than GH and more cost effective too

**dec11** · 03-31-2010, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

which part pray-tell do you have trouble believing?

You've never heard of guys running 4+ g/wk of AAS?

-VM

what part? its kinda obvious VM 600-800mg tren PER DAY which equals 4-6grs per wk on its own

**audis4** · 03-31-2010, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

Why would anyone use just a maintenance dosage of test?

Simple: because they want to let other compounds (ones which cause less sides, potentially for the individual.) do the work.

A simple TRT dosage just assists in facilitating mood and body function... while the other compounds actually sculpt the body.

low test + high 19-nors is sick cycle (not high like Tai's dosages.. never had experience w/ anything near there.).... only issue is people who are sensitive to prolactin or gyno sometimes have problems.

-VM

Thanks VM! I'll have to look into a cycle like that!

I have heard of running trt doses with other compounds, just didn't know how popular it was!