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    WHAT IF - Cycle on a maint diet??

    Educate me please.
    When I do cycle I will be doing blast and cruise since I am HRT.
    How would my results be if I just ran the blast period while staying on my maintainence diet? Obviously better than when not on Blast and obviously not as good as if I did a full out gaining diet but can anyone give me any more than that. Is it an okay idea. A terrible idea. Give the the how's and why's if you can.
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    depending on the compounds you take, feed efficiency may improve...so would you be readjusting your maintenance calories to account for this (i.e. reducing them)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by First6 View Post
    Educate me please.
    When I do cycle I will be doing blast and cruise since I am HRT.
    How would my results be if I just ran the blast period while staying on my maintainence diet? Obviously better than when not on Blast and obviously not as good as if I did a full out gaining diet but can anyone give me any more than that. Is it an okay idea. A terrible idea. Give the the how's and why's if you can.
    Thanks!
    pointless IMHO, if you are going to pay for extra compounds then you might as well take advantage of them, will you gain more on a blast, yes, will you gain much, no

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonT View Post
    depending on the compounds you take, feed efficiency may improve...so would you be readjusting your maintenance calories to account for this (i.e. reducing them)?
    Sorry your a little over my head with the feed efficiency. i wouldn't know how to adjust for it. I will need to read up on that unless you can explain it briefly for me to understand.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    pointless IMHO, if you are going to pay for extra compounds then you might as well take advantage of them, Agreed

    will you gain more on a blast, yes, will you gain much, no
    Can you explain for me. -- I am just thinking if I am making gains naturally (naturally for me is on my maintenance dose) and I Double the dose (just to keep the numbers simple) wouldn't it make sense that I would reap the extra benefit? OR is it that my body would not have the fuel to support the extra and therefore would not benefit?

    Let me put all my cards on the table here..... What I am not saying is that I am afraid of getting fat again. I have worked hard and have a distance to go and after I reach my bf goal I don't want to screw it up. Natural to feel this way?
    Last edited by First6; 04-01-2010 at 08:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by First6 View Post
    Sorry your a little over my head with the feed efficiency. i wouldn't know how to adjust for it. I will need to read up on that unless you can explain it briefly for me to understand.
    Thanks
    When you eat food, you lose some of the caloric value...certain compounds will make you lose less of that value, making you more "efficient" at feeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by First6 View Post
    Sorry your a little over my head with the feed efficiency. i wouldn't know how to adjust for it. I will need to read up on that unless you can explain it briefly for me to understand.
    Thanks
    Feed efficiency is the measure of how many calories your body can use for nutrition and energy out of the total amount you consume. No reaction is 100% efficient, meaning that there will always be loss, and this loss is in the form of heat which we use to maintain our internal temperature.

    For example, trenbolone is used in cattle to increase feed efficiency, this is HUGE in ranching because of the number of cattle that must be fed.

    Let's say you have 100,000 cattle that consume 10lbs of feed each day, but only use half of that(feed efficiency 50%), that means that in a year you are paying for 182,500,000 lbs of feed that is just being converted to heat or excreted in feces, while the other 182,500,000lbs is being used to produce muscle and fat that can be sold. That's a ton of cash down the drain, but let's say with the addition of trenbolone injections you can increase this feed efficiency to 75%. This equates to 91,250,000lbs of feed that you don't have to buy each year to get the same results from the cattle.


    Quote Originally Posted by First6 View Post
    Can you explain for me. -- I am just thinking if I am making gains naturally (naturally for me is on my maintenance dose) and I Double the dose (just to keep the numbers simple) wouldn't it make sense that I would reap the extra benefit? OR is it that my body would not have the fuel to support the extra and therefore would not benefit?

    Let me put all my cards on the table here..... What I am not saying is that I am afraid of getting fat again. I have worked hard and have a distance to go and after I reach my bf goal I don't want to screw it up. Natural to feel this way?
    it's completely natural to be afraid of gaining weight back, but don't let it scare you, even if you start to gain fat again it won't come back all at once and you'll be able to adjust your diet to stop the fat gain before it gets out of control, we will be more than happy to help you with this

    you are correct in that doubling the dose would cause increased muscle gains but you have to remember that when you use higher doses of AAS your body's feed efficiency increases, which means that you can eat more food without gaining weight. How much more you can eat is dependent on your body's internal chemistry and can only be found through trial and error, but i will say this. If you ask for diet help and follow that advice properly you will be more than happy with the results.

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    when you use higher doses of AAS your body's feed efficiency increases, which means that you can eat more food without gaining weight.

    So your saying I can up my dose and eat whatever I want whenever I want! Awesome! Bring on the M&M's !!!
    LOL
    Seriously. Thanks for all the info from both of you. Phate, that was a great analogy. Totally makes sense to me.
    I guess I do need to stop worrying about it. The info on the feed efficiency eases my mind some. I have a soild cutting diet right now (set up for me by mg1228) and I have no doubt he will be happy to help out again when my needs change.
    Last edited by First6; 04-01-2010 at 10:50 AM.

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