recommend a cycle

[Half-Life 6]

got itttttt

[taiboxa]

you should really research diet.. i think you have a lil more ways to go natty before you start to incorp aas into your regiment

and there is no such thing as "MY ONLY CYCLE" or "Just one more" lol
i have been in the game for quite a while and i have never seen ANYONE follow those words

[Half-Life 6]

i know i know ive herd so many people tell me that but this really will be my only cycle, unless i get rich somehow then i'll just live off hgh n a billion other stuff lol but seriously i will follow my protocol and not do it twice. i could get my weight up to 200 then try it out but that will just take longer and i dont plan on being "huge" i just wanna get bigger right now faster lol you know how that feels, i have long legs so i may seem a little small for my height but i'm pretty muscular and my main sport is bball. recommend me a cycle brooo

[Gra]

If you gained 25 lb in a year and your bf still is 10% you don`t need aas. Looks like youre headed in the right direction with what you are doing. But I guess you made up your mind?? Then test e or c for 10weeks is a good choice for a first cycle. And the only one cycle thing is just BS.. It will be just one more.. and one more++++ And do some research on PCT and cycling so you know what you are doing.

[lovbyts]

25 lbs in one year and you want to cycle why? What sense does that make?

Damn that is a good fire. Im really warm. I think I will throw some gas on it.... WHY? To take the risk of having it blow up, get out of control?

you have a good thing going. Keep building on it naturally. makes no sense to use AAS anytime soon.

[Half-Life 6]

ive done tons of research just wanted to hear a cycle from you guys, this will be my only cycle believe thatt, test c for 10 weeks and tren a for 6 weeks, good to go?

[mad dogs]

ive done tons of research just wanted to hear a cycle from you guys, this will be my only cycle believe thatt, test c for 10 weeks and tren a for 6 weeks, good to go?

dont ujse tren on 1st cycle ,even if its going to be your only cycle ,i would recomend this

weeks 1-12 500msg test e or test c per week

weeks 8-14 50mgs oral winny every day

nolvadex and clomid pct .

the winny will harden you up and give some real nice gains indeed ,its a great compound to add to the end of cycles ,forget the tren add the winny and you will have a real good cycle .

[Half-Life 6]

dont ujse tren on 1st cycle ,even if its going to be your only cycle ,i would recomend this

weeks 1-12 500msg test e or test c per week

weeks 8-14 50mgs oral winny every day

nolvadex and clomid pct .

the winny will harden you up and give some real nice gains indeed ,its a great compound to add to the end of cycles ,forget the tren add the winny and you will have a real good cycle .

so basically only test to bulk up then cut with winny? what would you say your "average" gain in LBM would one expect, i know everyones different but the general average

[mad dogs]

so basically only test to bulk up then cut with winny? what would you say your "average" gain in LBM would one expect, i know everyones different but the general average

yes thats about it ,bulk with test (good lean bulk) then harden and cut with winny,i have ran a cycle like the above and gained 15lbs and droped 2-3% in body fat ,my doses were higher tho ,your dose is fine for 1st cycle ,make sure you get oral winny and not injectable as injectbales are very bad for pain and infections.

[Half-Life 6]

i have also read that winny isnt good for athletes in high impact/explosive sports.. not good for me bro, tren isnt either considering it would demolish my endurance

[Gra]

What do you plan on doing after this cycle? If you cycle now your test level will probably be lower after the cycle than it is now, and you don`t want that if this is going to be your only cycle. lol..

[mad dogs]

just got with test then for 10-12 weeks ,you can finish with anavar if you wish ,same weeks as i stated for the winny but at 60mgs per day.

[Half-Life 6]

What do you plan on doing after this cycle? If you cycle now your test level will probably be lower after the cycle than it is now, and you don`t want that if this is going to be your only cycle. lol..

lol your test will always be lower considering they can never match steroids ? i dont get what your trying to say?

[mad dogs]

what he is saying is when you use steroids it shuts your natural test levals down ,now a pct is what brings them back upto normal levals ,if pct is poor or your body dont take to pct meds your natural test can be lower after a cycle ,hence lower sex drive ect.if a pct is done right and you recover good then i dont see test levals being any lower then from befor your cycle ,abuseing steroids is were it becomes a big problem for some.

[Half-Life 6]

yes i know i have a solic pct im not some teenage kid asking to gain 40 lb and using milk thistle and novedex xt for pct dont belittle me like that lol anyways i'll be running test during the cycle so what are you saying....? and why are you talking about abusing roids when im talking about running 1 cycle only and clearly your natural test is completely shutdown after cycle lmao are you a troll?

[mad dogs]

yes i know i have a solic pct im not some teenage kid asking to gain 40 lb and using milk thistle and novedex xt for pct dont belittle me like that lol anyways i'll be running test during the cycle so what are you saying....? and why are you talking about abusing roids when im talking about running 1 cycle only and clearly your natural test is completely shutdown after cycle lmao are you a troll?

i was explaining to you what he by his statment as you said you dident understand it ,i was not bashing you or talkoing to you like a kid i was stating the facts and what can happen IF you abuse steroids .

[Half-Life 6]

double posting: but i think i'm liking the idea of eq/test and 35 mg dbol kickstart for 4 weeks

test cyp 500 mg EW 12 weeks
eq 500 mg EW 11 weeks

also adex 0.25 ED or EOD?

[mad dogs]

double posting: but i think i'm liking the idea of eq/test and 35 mg dbol kickstart for 4 weeks

test cyp 500 mg EW 12 weeks
eq 500 mg EW 11 weeks

also adex 0.25 ED or EOD?

why the adex on cycle?

[Half-Life 6]

just to help with some of the sides

[taiboxa]

win makes my joints hurt like a bich

[mad dogs]

just to help with some of the sides

like ?

gyno

bloat

???

not everyone gets sides on cycle so i would say hold of the adex untill you see sides ,thats if you see any at all.

[baseline_9]

just run test

[Half-Life 6]

win makes my joints hurt like a bich

and you can imagine how that would suck for a bball player thats why im going with eq

[baseline_9]

why run eq?

its a first cycle, wats the poin anyway?

what are u expecting from the half gram of eq a week

[InknSteel]

Keep it simple, run 12 weeks test 250mg every 3.5 days then clomid & nolva pct. Kickstart with dbol if you want but if your worried about sides then don't bother. GL with this being your only cycle, i'm running my first and said I only want to do 1 cycle and that's it. I'm already planning my second lol hope it works out for ya bro.

[Half-Life 6]

why run eq?

its a first cycle, wats the poin anyway?

what are u expecting from the half gram of eq a week

so what your saying is if i run eq with test it would be useless ....
dont think of this as my first cycle im thinking of it as my only one and dont wanna just use test, sorry bro's

[baseline_9]

so what your saying is if i run eq with test it would be useless .... I didnt say that but im sure some of the Vets on here would
dont think of this as my first cycle urrrrrrrrrm, 1 moment, this is your first cycle tho im thinking of it as my only one and dont wanna just use test, sorry bro's

i tell u wat, if this isnt a "first cycle" and you want to cram gains from multiple cycles, y dont u run sumat like this


150 Mg Test Prop ED 10 weeks
150 Mg Tren A ED 10 weeks
100 Mg Anadrol ED 6 weeks

sure you will make stupid gains and see stupid sides but its a first cycle. It dosnt matter if its your only cycle, its still a first cycle so treat it like one


Test and Dbol if you really want.

You will still make good gains

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Keep it simple, run 12 weeks test 250mg every 3.5 days then clomid & nolva pct. Kickstart with dbol if you want but if your worried about sides then don't bother. GL with this being your only cycle, i'm running my first and said I only want to do 1 cycle and that's it. I'm already planning my second lol hope it works out for ya bro.

this. my first cycle was test-e at 500mg for 12 weeks, split in two injections per week.

[InknSteel]

Have you taken any aas before? if no then this is your first cycle. Regardless if it is your only cycle or not most people are going to recommend test only because you don't know how your body will react to the steroids . You don't want alot of sides but you want to cram in a bunch of different compounds and just hope nothing bad happens?

[Half-Life 6]

i took superdrol before but i dont really count that as something but test/eq/dbol sounds crazy? lets say a person who has done 2 cycles and does this as his third the only benefit he has is knowing how his body would react to it right? its not like scientifically you cant do it as your first cycle because my body hasn't adapted to it or my body could be allergic to steroids lol i only wanna use drugs for 18 weeks total in my life time thats 12 for the cycle and 6 for pct i dont want to rely on it for years down the road

[InknSteel]

i took superdrol before but i dont really count that as something but test/eq/dbol sounds crazy? lets say a person who has done 2 cycles and does this as his third the only benefit he has is knowing how his body would react to it right? its not like scientifically you cant do it as your first cycle because my body hasn't adapted to it or my body could be allergic to steroids lol i only wanna use drugs for 18 weeks total in my life time thats 12 for the cycle and 6 for pct i dont want to rely on it for years down the road

I completely understand what ya saying man and no that isn't a crazy cycle at all. All I'm saying is you don't know how your body will react to any of this. You could have horrible sides from the test by itself. In the end it's your body and you will do what you want to, just giving my .02 man. With proper diet and training pre/during/post cycle you could very well get where you want to be on test alone.

[Half-Life 6]

yeahh but i dont feel comfortable at all shutting down my HPTA more than once or twice thats why if im gunna shut it down then i might as well go all out, i'l prob get some acne, mood swings etc but nothing MAJOR like im running a high dose of tren , no?

[Half-Life 6]

whats the difference with TEST/DBOL

vs.

TEST/EQ/DBOL

[InknSteel]

Realistically no, you shouldn't get anything crazy besides the normal sides. But there is always that chance, but with anything you take legal or not there will always be that chance. I do agree with your thinking though. If I was set on not doing more than 1 cycle I would probably have added eq or deca to my cycle but I knew in the back of my addictive head that I would end up doing more than one so I kept it simple lol keep us posted on your progress man, and gl to ya!

[InknSteel]

whats the difference with TEST/DBOL

vs.

TEST/EQ/DBOL

Haven't researched eq all that much but I know that eq doesn't harm your liver like dbol does, also I do believe it takes longer to feel the effects of it. Someone with more knowledge of EQ will chime in though.

[JScondition]

yeahh but i dont feel comfortable at all shutting down my HPTA more than once or twice thats why if im gunna shut it down then i might as well go all out, i'l prob get some acne, mood swings etc but nothing MAJOR like im running a high dose of tren, no?

There is no way in hell you should be cycling with a mind set like that. **** if you want to go all out why not just take a gram of test per week. Take it with tren , winny, eq, dbol , why not even throw in some HGH? I mean its your one and only cycle right? Why not go all out?

Do you see how dumb the stuff you are saying is.

Part of the reason why you should only take a test cycle is because you can only gain so much on one cycle.

First cycle of test e you would at best gain 25lbs
First cycle with test, tren, dbol, winny, eq... you will still only gain 25 lbs not 40.

Take the advice of others and don't act out of impulse.

Do a test only cycle and leave it at that for your "one and only cycle"

o and we'll see you back here in 5 months so we can make your second cycle

[Half-Life 6]

There is no way in hell you should be cycling with a mind set like that. **** if you want to go all out why not just take a gram of test per week. Take it with tren , winny, eq, dbol , why not even throw in some HGH? I mean its your one and only cycle right? Why not go all out?

Do you see how dumb the stuff you are saying is.

Part of the reason why you should only take a test cycle is because you can only gain so much on one cycle.

First cycle of test e you would at best gain 25lbs
First cycle with test, tren, dbol, winny, eq... you will still only gain 25 lbs not 40.

Take the advice of others and don't act out of impulse.

Do a test only cycle and leave it at that for your "one and only cycle"

o and we'll see you back here in 5 months so we can make your second cycle

lol you wont see me here again unless steroids evolve somehow in the next 10 years and become much better, so your saying if i diet correctly, lift correctly with test e i would gain 25 lb. ? if so then i'll just do that i dont want 40 lb

[taiboxa]

lol you wont see me here again unless steroids evolve somehow in the next 10 years and become much better, so your saying if i diet correctly, lift correctly with test e i would gain 25 lb. ? if so then i'll just do that i dont want 40 lb

lol.. your newness shows like a brilliant beacon in the night..

[Half-Life 6]

sorry for my newness but no one is born a vet, if we trace back to your first post asking about roids i bet we'll see a guy with thousands of posts commenting about you being new too, steroids is steroids there's the chemical and thats what im interested in how it reacts and works not the general "steroid laws for bro's" stating you must be 25 and you must weight a 200 lb. at 6 ft. and you must be at your genetic max, i'm not as ambitious as most of you guys here wanting to be 245 lb benching with your pinkies i just wanna be 25 lb heavier asap and i will fight to keep most of it, I HOPE i stay new as long as i can cause i would hate to be those guys that could type up 3 pages of all the cycle's they've done to get to 220 lb

[JScondition]

sorry for my newness but no one is born a vet, if we trace back to your first post asking about roids i bet we'll see a guy with thousands of posts commenting about you being new too

I did go back and check and taiboxa did it correctly. His first posts were in the diet section. Which is where you should have started. Then you you find his first post on AAS he obviously knows what he is talking about before posting. You should have read and read and read thread after sticky after thread after sticky until you got a solid understanding of these chemicals and what they can and can't do to your body.

You do not start out how you did... that just sets you up to get harassed and made fun of. Plus no one wants to help you if you are stubborn and don't listen when they say you are not ready/ read more info before doing this.

You need to be educated greatly before making this decision because like they say, "THIS IS A LIFELONG DECISION" you have to be dedicated to work hard for the rest of your life. If you just take one cycle and stop... then you may keep your gains, but you have to continue to bust your f*ing ass in the gym day in and day out. You have to stick to a strict diet and cut out alcohol for the most part, or you will go right back to where you were before cycle. This is why we laugh when you say, "This is my one and only cycle." it because a)it wont be... or b)you are wasting your time and money on one cycle because you do not seem serious enough to keep your gains.

Sorry if I am coming off harsh to you, but you just gotta be patient and figure out some things for yourself... thats the best way to learn. You won't learn half as much if everyone gives you all the answers.

and sorry taiboxa for stalking your posts didn't mean to come off creepy just trying to make a point