Recommended...

[313frog]

A friend of mine recommended this as my first cycle (excluding pct):

-1cc Test sus / 1cc tren (parabolan) > once a week alternating cheeks, Weeks 1-10

- 50mg D-bol > 25mg x2 per day, Weeks 1-2

- 50mg Winstrol > 50mg per day, Weeks 11-12

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He gave me some Amitrex to deal with gyno / water retention.

I pinned the test and tren and took 25mg of dbol last night before I went to bed. Now, like a dumb ass, I have questions... Questions which I obviously should have had answered before I started. I figured it's early enough to know whether it's worth it to continue on or to bail out.

Would anyone recommend this cycle? Should I stay or go?

Thank you very much for your time and advice guys,
Frog

PS: I have read the First Time Cycle FAQ, my friend recommended this to me.

[lovbyts]

Did you change profiles and just post this yesterday also?

BAD,. BAD. BAD......

With friends like this you defiantly dont need enemies. Maybe he just really doesn't like you and wants to see you fvcked up? Like they say. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Now what are your stats?

Age
weight
height
body fat
cycle experience
work out history
diet

Go back and read the first cycle again. Stick with those rules and tell your friend he is an idiot.

[mad dogs]

its a poory planned cycle bud ,you dont need the tren thats for sure ,1ml sust per week = 250msg i would up this too 2ml per week ( 500mgs ) for 12 weeks ,the dbol dose is a little hight and 2 weeks is not worth it,drop it down to 35msg per day for 4 weeks,the winstrol at the end for 1 weeks is totaly pointless and will do nothing ,agian around 4-6 weeks is the normal time for winny to be run at the end of a cycle - here is a simple lay out on what would be the best cycle-

weeks 1-4 35mgs dbol per day

weeks 1-12 500msg sust per week ( x2 injections per week)

weeks 14-18 nolvadex and clomid pct

adex o cycle is fine at around .25mgs every other day.

thats all you need ^^^

[Kiki]

tren first cycle?

your friend doesn't seem very wise.

You probably haven't read anything and don't know what you're doing. Tren is one of the strongest steroids that can have some pretty bad sides. First cycles are usually light and contain a base testosterone and maybe some second thing like dbol or winstrol.

PS: I have read the First Time Cycle FAQ, my friend recommended this to me.

if you read first cycle faq you'd know what you're doing is not right

[313frog]

Thanks guys, i can't tell you how much i appreciate the feedback... seriously.

-I did not post this yesterday, maybe it was my piece if shit friend trying to figure out what the **** he just put me on..

Anyway,

-Age:21
Weight:190lbs
Height: 5'10"
Body Fat: 8-12% (really not sure)
Cycle Experience: None whatsoever
Workout XP: 3 years of crossfit, olympic weightlifting, running. (no intentions for bodybuilding. I'm just looking for strength, speed, and maybe some cutting.)
Diet: Zone / Paleo

Guys I really appreciate this advice and I want to make this thing right. What would you suggest for my next move? Should I start over completely or can I just adapt to a more suitable cycle from where I'm at?

*Also... I took the dose last night and when I woke up in the morning I had noticeable testicular atrophy. I knew that was a potential side effect but I didn't foresee it manifesting itself so quickly. What steps should I take in regard to this?

[lovbyts]

Thanks guys, i can't tell you how much i appreciate the feedback... seriously.

-I did not post this yesterday, maybe it was my piece if shit friend trying to figure out what the **** he just put me on..

Anyway,

-Age:21
Weight:190lbs
Height: 5'10"
Body Fat: 8-12% (really not sure)
Cycle Experience: None whatsoever
Workout XP: 3 years of crossfit, olympic weightlifting, running. (no intentions for bodybuilding. I'm just looking for strength, speed, and maybe some cutting.)
Diet: Zone / Paleo

Guys I really appreciate this advice and I want to make this thing right. What would you suggest for my next move? Should I start over completely or can I just adapt to a more suitable cycle from where I'm at?

*Also... I took the dose last night and when I woke up in the morning I had noticeable testicular atrophy. I knew that was a potential side effect but I didn't foresee it manifesting itself so quickly. What steps should I take in regard to this?

It's 100% placebo effect, it's in your head. IMPOSSIBLE for it to happen yet.

STOP now......You need to read a lot more in the sticky notes above on why you should not be doing ANY aas yet. Trust me there are to many side effects at your age and you have to much natural test to be screwing it up for the rest of your life.

you can make the same gains with a good diet and working out expect you wont have any of the MANY side effects and life lone issues suck as no libido, no sex drive, cant get your dick up. REALLY... That's only the start.

Before doing any more dong just get scared but read and keep reading and why it's best to wait a few more years...

[songdog]

1ST find new friends or smarter ones.1st cycle you dont want or need tren.Never start a cycle without your gear for PCT.And read up on wat you are doing.There are guys like your friend all over the place.Who think they got it going on.We got all kind of vets here.Who are more than happy to help you.But you must read.Tons of info out there.Good luck.

[313frog]

It's 100% placebo effect, it's in your head. IMPOSSIBLE for it to happen yet.

STOP now......You need to read a lot more in the sticky notes above on why you should not be doing ANY aas yet. Trust me there are to many side effects at your age and you have to much natural test to be screwing it up for the rest of your life.

you can make the same gains with a good diet and working out expect you wont have any of the MANY side effects and life lone issues suck as no libido, no sex drive, cant get your dick up. REALLY... That's only the start.

Before doing any more dong just get scared but read and keep reading and why it's best to wait a few more years...

Thanks for the advice man,

Would you suggest taking any pct steps at all? I do have some nolvadex and amitrex. Would completely advise against proceeding with any of the aforementioned newbie cycles?

Thanks again,
Frog

EDIT: For the sake of clarity here is the exact log of what I took:
Friday April 2nd, 11:20PM- 1cc test sus / 1cc tren (parabolan), 25mg dbol
Saturday April 3rd, 10:35AM 25mg dbol / 10:20PM 25mg dbol.
That is all I've subjected myself to so far.