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    Dr. recomended cycle

    23yrs old
    200lbs
    16%bf
    lifing 3 years
    4th cycle
    4000cals/ day

    my dr. is recomending this cycle, it seems a little out of the ordinary to me. but here it is:

    wk 1-10 deca 400mg/wk
    wk 1-12 test e 350mg/wk
    wk 1-12 winnie 50mg/day

    also going to use adex, nolva, clomid pct.

    whats you opinion on this? my goal is to cut to 12-13 bf and maintain weight.

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    that cycle is possable but most people will say run the test higher than the deca due to libido probelms if you dnt,its not that bad of a cycle but i would up th test to 500mgs per week and you will be good to go ,also i would use hcg on cycle rarther then on pct.

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    ^^ x2

    other then whinny might be a little overkill on your liver.

    What kind of doctor is this?

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    sh it dident see the winny there ,you deff dont want to run it 12 weeks bud

    wk 1-10 deca 400mg/wk
    wk 1-12 test e 500mg/wk
    wk 8-14 winnie 50mg/day

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    I would be happy if a doc would script me for this. IMO take it and add on more test (and deca )

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    it sucks becaust the test is 200mg/ml and i have two bottles same with the deca . so im running a little less on the test so that i can stretch it a whole 12 wks. i might just have to get another bottle through my other source but i hate mixing pharm with ugl. damn

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    how in the world do you get a doctor to recommend a cycle to you? I need to find these types instead of seeing ones who throw a fit if I say I used steroids

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    what dc gave you that cycle? did he give you the gear too?

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    what doctor would recommend a cycle for someone who is 23?? way too young lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2jz_calgary View Post
    what doctor would recommend a cycle for someone who is 23?? way too young lol
    I disagree but we all have our opinions

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    Quote Originally Posted by ml87 View Post
    it sucks becaust the test is 200mg/ml and i have two bottles same with the deca. so im running a little less on the test so that i can stretch it a whole 12 wks. i might just have to get another bottle through my other source but i hate mixing pharm with ugl. damn
    You should def run the test higher.
    Get another bottle.

    I would hate having limp dick more then mixing ugl and pharma.

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    Have you cycled before?

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    sorry this is off the subject but do you guys tell your doctor that your no juice, I am going through a hrt clinic but I have never talked to my doctor about being on juice it always feels weird. Just wondering what the rest of you guys do?

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    ^^ jk
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrutah View Post
    sorry this is off the subject but do you guys tell your doctor that your no juice, I am going through a hrt clinic but I have never talked to my doctor about being on juice it always feels weird. Just wondering what the rest of you guys do?
    yes i let my doctor know cause he can monitor things.

    pretty sure they know if you take juice if that is you in the pic lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad dogs View Post
    that cycle is possable but most people will say run the test higher than the deca due to libido probelms if you dnt,its not that bad of a cycle but i would up th test to 500mgs per week and you will be good to go ,also i would use hcg on cycle rarther then on pct.
    running test higher than deca has no affect whatsoever on libido.. thing is .. your not looking at a prolacting/estrogen/testosterone ratio.. your looking at supplying a "supplement" to the suppressed production of your endogenous testorone production.. i.e. you only need up to 100mg/wk of test REGARDLESS OF ALL OTHER COMPOUNDS ADMINISTERED.. you could run 5g/tren 5g/deca /wk and have no libido issues assuming you incorp the proper amount of test to "substitute" your natty test... its not like Deca Trumps Test and if you have 600mg deca/800mg Test you have an overall of 200mg/Blood plasma test.. no.. it doesnt work like that.

    so there is no logic in any rhyme or reason as to why you would need test higher than deca.. infact having test LOWER than deca would be most ideal since the aromatization of test into estrogen (at higher doses) can have adverse affects due to the increase progest/prolactin recept binding affinity. its like.. why would you add more gas.. if the fire is already getting bigger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ml87 View Post
    23yrs old
    200lbs
    16%bf
    lifing 3 years
    4th cycle
    4000cals/ day

    my dr. is recomending this cycle, it seems a little out of the ordinary to me. but here it is:

    wk 1-10 deca 400mg/wk
    wk 1-12 test e 350mg/wk
    wk 1-12 winnie 50mg/day

    also going to use adex, nolva, clomid pct.

    whats you opinion on this? my goal is to cut to 12-13 bf and maintain weight.
    what did u tell your doctor to have this cycle recommended to u??

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    Usually its a salesman that discusses your goals and relays that to a doc at a HRT clinic. It would be very cool to have access to a Doc and save the middleman. Deca isnt going to do much to cut bf unless you eat very clean bro.

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    my first hrt clinic offered the same cycle. My current mail order clinic offered the same minus the pct and adding HCG during.

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    this is my primary care doc who also has a hrt clinic. he wants me to be safe if i am going to be on gear. it prob sounds weird to say but i think that makes him a good doctor, caring for his patients. taiboxa: if what you say is correct than THANK YOU! it makes alot of sense. and to the guy who asked if i ever cycled before: read the post first!

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