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    Opinions on next cycle

    Planning my next cycle. This will be my second cycle. First cycle was a cliche Test Cyp 500mg for 12 weeks. No pct necessary as I am on TRT @ 200mg Test Cyp a week along with .25mg of Arimidex E3D.

    Age: 28
    H'T: 5'9"
    WT: 200
    BF%: 10%
    Lifting History: 8 years

    Wanting to get a bulking cycle in before summer. However, I really want this to be a lean bulk. I know diet is what usually determines a lean bulk, so I have that spot on. Goals are to add some LBM and harden up a bit. Was thinking of this, but I'm open to opinions and suggestions.

    Weeks 1-12 Test Enan @ 500mg
    Weeks 1-13 Equipose @ 600mg (Was thinking 400mg but read that 600 is way to go. Also, running an extra week because 12 weeks will be 3.6 and I have 4, so I will be running it til it's gone).
    Weeks 8-12 Winny @ 50mg a day (Wanted to do var, but didn't have enough). Also don't know if first 4 weeks would be better or last 4.
    Weeks 1-12 will be bumping up Arimidex dose to .5mg EOD.

    Like I said, I'm open to suggestions. Even different compounds (except Tren . Tren's benefits have me excited, but the sides scare me).

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    looks good to me i was going to say do the winny weeks 10-14 while you wait for test test e ester to clear for your pct but i see your on hrt.

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    Thanks man, it's my first time with eq (obviously). I've always read that less than 400mg is a waste and 600mg seems to be the sweet spot.

    Can anyone post their experiences with EQ? The majority of what I searched are peopel bashing it and saying it's weak. Who knows if they are just repeating what others are saying. It's weak for bulking, compared to Test and Deca . Those are the kings for bulk (not accounting orals). However, EQ has to have it's place.

    Also, since it takes awhile to kick in, would it be smart to start it out at 400mg?

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    i ove eq ,gives me great enegy/sence of weel being/appitite/great pumps ,becasue it takes a while to kick in dont mean you have to start at 400mgs ,if anything you can frontload it for the 1st two weeks at 1200mgs per week then on the 3rd week start 600mgs per week for the rest of your cycle.

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    Dosage for the adex is on the low side. You may need more or you may not. I would have more on hand just incase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharmDoc-Cyrus View Post
    Dosage for the adex is on the low side. You may need more or you may not. I would have more on hand just incase.
    0.5mg/eod isn't low at all IMO...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Diamond View Post
    Weeks 1-12 Test Enan @ 500mg
    Weeks 1-13 Equipose @ 600mg (Was thinking 400mg but read that 600 is way to go. Also, running an extra week because 12 weeks will be 3.6 and I have 4, so I will be running it til it's gone).
    Weeks 8-12 Winny @ 50mg a day (Wanted to do var, but didn't have enough). Also don't know if first 4 weeks would be better or last 4.
    Weeks 1-12 will be bumping up Arimidex dose to .5mg EOD.

    Like I said, I'm open to suggestions. Even different compounds (except Tren. Tren's benefits have me excited, but the sides scare me).
    Well honestly you should stick to deca over EQ if you are planning on a big summer bulker. Deca @ 600mg/wk for 12 weeks will provide MUCH better gains then EQ at that same dosage. Obviously your call though..

    Only other thing I could think of is perhaps some prop to kick-start or an oral... but since it's your second cycle you may not want to dabble with that many compounds just yet

    -VM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    0.5mg/eod isn't low at all IMO...

    -VM
    That is a little better.

    He is planning on ¨ .25mg of Arimidex E3D.¨

    Dunno, may work just fine.

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    ^^ he is useing .25mgs every 3rd day while he is on hrt ,he stats thats he will bump it up to .5 eod ,i can see why you got confused i have to read he post over to clear it up lol.

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    ^^ My bad. I was wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad dogs View Post
    i ove eq ,gives me great enegy/sence of weel being/appitite/great pumps ,becasue it takes a while to kick in dont mean you have to start at 400mgs ,if anything you can frontload it for the 1st two weeks at 1200mgs per week then on the 3rd week start 600mgs per week for the rest of your cycle.
    I'm looking forward to EQ. Figured it'd be a nice compound to add to help harden up and keep gains lean.

    So will frontloading the EQ kick-start it faster (don't know too much about frontloading)?
    Last edited by Black; 04-07-2010 at 09:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    Well honestly you should stick to deca over EQ if you are planning on a big summer bulker. Deca @ 600mg/wk for 12 weeks will provide MUCH better gains then EQ at that same dosage. Obviously your call though..

    Only other thing I could think of is perhaps some prop to kick-start or an oral... but since it's your second cycle you may not want to dabble with that many compounds just yet

    -VM
    I'm going to run a true bulker either late this winter or early next year (test, deca and kick-start with dbol maybe).

    Do you think the winny would be better the first 4 weeks or the last 4?

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